Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[ThorneDynasty]

The only way Wuk can come anywhere near Lyse's level of character is if they writers drop her protective shield and give some real flaw, real failure and real consequence.

I seriously don't get the comparision between Wuk and Lyse. Sure, they're both the unpopular face of the expansion but that's pretty much where the similarity stop.

Storm Blood spent HALF of the expansion kicking and beating on Lyse, by mid MSQ her own people told her she's failure and just get lost. At the same point of the story, Wuk had finished her ascension to universal adoration.

By the end of SB, Lyse emerged as a leader who was battered and bruised limping to her post that's not even a ruler. Wuk was handed a 2nd population to rule while barely losing a single strain on her fur coat.

They are NOT the same.

Same, if anything, DT has cemented my opinion the Lyse hate meme for "stealing WoL's spotlight" is unhinged and insane. It's like they went out their way to write a character the way Lyse haters claim Lyse was.

She spends an entire zone milking sheep off screen for fuck sake, which I fucking wish Wuk Lamat had done.

[Orson_Dara]

The only way Wuk can come anywhere near Lyse's level of character is if they writers drop her protective shield and give some real flaw, real failure and real consequence.

I seriously don't get the comparision between Wuk and Lyse. Sure, they're both the unpopular face of the expansion but that's pretty much where the similarity stop.

Storm Blood spent HALF of the expansion kicking and beating on Lyse, by mid MSQ her own people told her she's failure and just get lost. At the same point of the story, Wuk had finished her ascension to universal adoration.

By the end of SB, Lyse emerged as a leader who was battered and bruised limping to her post that's not even a ruler. Wuk was handed a 2nd population to rule while barely losing a single strain on her fur coat.

They are NOT the same.

This hits the nail on the head. Basically Wuk Lamat doesn't have any flaws in the eyes of the characters around her. She is just ever so quirky and lovable. The irony is she acts like a naive child even to the point of sympathizing with a genocidal AI.

On top of that your character's autonomy is completely ripped away from you. The moment she tried to force me to call her sister or lame - mitee or whatever. I was feeling, "hell no, I don't even like you." And actively it ruins my estimation of other characters like Alisae who literally speaks for the WoL basically saying "he's just so honored he's at a loss for words." Screw that, I was basically hired help for a perfect little princess. At no point did they do anything to show her having to make tough choices.

The worst part is that the other chosen actually had interesting motivations. Their presence should have been contrasted and challenged Wuk Lamat's naive nature. Think about it Wuk Lamat's only defining characteristics are happiness, peace, and friendship. Challenge that with the concept of technological advancement vs maintaining old ways. Challenge the idea that peace is not always going to be an option maybe the concept of a just war. Even Bokaal Ja they could have had her challenged by a brutal culture where the Mamool Ja tribe only followed the strong and violent. At no point were her ideologies challenged as not being correct.

This stinks of standard modern writing tropes. The barely flawed Mary Sue wins the day because she has the correct morals. The funny thing is I've seen a lot of people mock this by comparing it to Shonens like Naruto. Comparing this to Naruto. Makes the juvenile level of writing in Naruto look like pure Shakepeare.

It's as if they didn't have a proper editor that came and said. "Cut out this incredibly boring crap. Flesh out these characters more."

[Heavenchild]

When that happened, and I saw it was a "NPC follow me", I immediately canceled the quest acceptance and explored on my own as far as I could go.

I did the same. xD
At this point I was really tiered of her. I don't hate Wuk Lamat. She is okay. But..., it was really just tooooo much of Wuk Lamat all the time. So at a point I enjoyed every second she wasn't around and getting all the screentime.

[Magikazam]

The funny thing is I've seen a lot of people mock this by comparing it to Shonens like Naruto

Imo that because Wuk and naruto are almost the same character to a point I wonder if the writer didn't just binge the show while writing Yawntrail. Just to name a few.

Both of their father are the Dawnservant/Hokage.

Both want to become Dawnservant/Hokage to continue their father legacy and create a peacefull world.

The local population hate/cringe at the both of them and ignore their legacy (Naruto cause of his nine tail demon, Wuk cause people see her as that one weird and undeserving kid of the dawnservant)

But it okay cause the few people that don't hate/cringe at them happen to be perfect guy to give a power up (In case of naruto) or to solve the Rites of succession challenges.

And both just somehow become friend with everyone for no reason.


Oh yea also Zoraal Ja solution to bring peace is very similar to the One Sasuke has as the end of the series when he want to become hokage lol.

[ViaDesperare]

Imo that because Wuk and naruto are almost the same character to a point I wonder if the writer didn't just binge the show while writing Yawntrail. Just to name a few.

Both of their father are the Dawnservant/Hokage.

Both want to become Dawnservant/Hokage to continue their father legacy and create a peacefull world.

The local population hate/cringe at the both of them and ignore their legacy (Naruto cause of his nine tail demon, Wuk cause people see her as that one weird and undeserving kid of the dawnservant)

But it okay cause the few people that don't hate/cringe at them happen to be perfect guy to give a power up (In case of naruto) or to solve the Rites of succession challenges.

And both just somehow become friend with everyone for no reason.


Oh yea also Zoraal Ja solution to bring peace is very similar to the One Sasuke has as the end of the series when he want to become hokage lol.

Have you watched Naruto? What lies are you spouting?

1. True
2. Naruto wanted to become Hokage so people would respect him, because he was desperate for love since he's never shown it. You can tell the importance of the bonds he created throughout the story in the anime during the final rasengan scene where he's able to create a rasengan by himself without a need of a clone, or you can interpret it as a wanting of other people and instead he's fine with what he has now.
3. The local population doesn't hate Wuk Lamat, she has less worshipers than the other promises, but she still has people cheering her on, like her not dead father and milk-mother. Naruto had no one, manga-wise.
4. Naruto is hated by everyone, so idk where you're finding people that don't hate him. He has to slowly earn everyone's recognition.
5. Naruto doesn't become friends with everyone for no reason, he worked with and helped many of them. He usually has to beat them, Gaara and Pain. He had to talk no jutsu a lot of people, like Zabuza w/ Haku. He was also beaten up by the Cloud Ninjas, the girl that became Choji's wife. ETC he went through alot. We can only hope we get a scene where Wuk Lamat gets punched up bad, but doubt that's going to happen.
6. Sasuke wanted to create a better world by becoming Hokage, redoing the whole shinobi system that was corrupt and caused the suffering of his people and brother. Zoraal Ja had daddy issues and wanted to feel special by doing something grandeur because he's a special child for being born.

Don't relate Naruto to Wuk Lmao. Watch the Anime, skipping fillers, or read the Manga, because you don't know what the heck you're talking about.
People need to stop relating Wuk to Naruto, it's such a bad take.

Dawntrail is more like Guardian Spice, than anime. Same shtick.

[MalakRevan]

I play this game on ps5 so naturally I played ff16 around the time it came out and the voice acting and direction difference between it and Dawntrail is like night and day. Its mind boggling how great the voice acting was in 16 compared to Dawntrail, if you showed clips from both games to people who don't know anything about Final Fantasy they'd never be able to tell that they both come from the same studio. I've never heard any of Sena Bryer's previous roles so I can't judge if she is the one at fault for Wuk's voice acting or if it was the directing she received.

[Asari5]

naruto and wuk lamat are the very same archetype... it makes sense to compare them

[gumas]

Things really picked up for me with the cowboy zone and even heritage found but I cannot express just how soul draining it felt when we finally get to solution 9 and everyone splits up to go explore this new wondrous techno city and then wuk lamat wanders into frame to make us explore with her, which just results in seeing the things she wants to see. Immediately tanked my momentum and put me back on babysitting mode and it never quite recovered after that lol

Lol this is exactly how i felt too. I finally free to do my own thing only this naruto cat girl to come back and haunt me again, i was like "why? Your story is over, leave me in peace already" zzzz

[PaleYonder]

I really can't believe the difference the cat's presence or absence makes.
So I stayed away from all new content for a while, did only some slow gathering/crafting catch-up in old zones, levelled Picto, and now finally started the optional level 100 stuff, expert dungeons and Arcadion. After the MSQ I just had no motivation to even enter the new zones anymore, even though I'd been looking forward to Solution 9 ever since I saw the first promo image. The bad MSQ experience just overshadowed it all. And I thought of the Arcadion, sure it looks nice but so does Solution 9, and I'm just done, and tournament arcs aren't interesting enough for me to get into this now; to me it can be fun if it's made entertaining enough, bonus points for being very anime, but it's "take it or leave it", and after this, I thought I'll leave it.

But now that I'm getting into this and there's no cat princess doing her black hole act, and it's just me in a new situation, it's such a relief. I can play as myself again! My character has something to do again and is the one that interacts with the NPCs! It doesn't even matter that it's just about a frivolous tournament and doesn't mean anything on any grander scale, I'm given something to do as myself, and I'm given dialogue options that express different attitudes to the soul thing, and I get to be critical of NPCs as much as I want. With this bare minimum, I'm already having so much better a time, it's like night and day.
The Dawntrail MSQ has endless problems from the ground up and I stand by that, but I think without Wuk Lamat and all the issues she brings, it might have been at least a tolerable experience.

[Wired-Lain]

I really can't believe the difference the cat's presence or absence makes.
So I stayed away from all new content for a while, did only some slow gathering/crafting catch-up in old zones, levelled Picto, and now finally started the optional level 100 stuff, expert dungeons and Arcadion. After the MSQ I just had no motivation to even enter the new zones anymore, even though I'd been looking forward to Solution 9 ever since I saw the first promo image. The bad MSQ experience just overshadowed it all. And I thought of the Arcadion, sure it looks nice but so does Solution 9, and I'm just done, and tournament arcs aren't interesting enough for me to get into this now; to me it can be fun if it's made entertaining enough, bonus points for being very anime, but it's "take it or leave it", and after this, I thought I'll leave it.

But now that I'm getting into this and there's no cat princess doing her black hole act, and it's just me in a new situation, it's such a relief. I can play as myself again! My character has something to do again and is the one that interacts with the NPCs! It doesn't even matter that it's just about a frivolous tournament and doesn't mean anything on any grander scale, I'm given something to do as myself, and I'm given dialogue options that express different attitudes to the soul thing, and I get to be critical of NPCs as much as I want. With this bare minimum, I'm already having so much better a time, it's like night and day.
The Dawntrail MSQ has endless problems from the ground up and I stand by that, but I think without Wuk Lamat and all the issues she brings, it might have been at least a tolerable experience.

I'm loving Arcadion but I keep fearing the arrival of Wuk Lamat barging in at any moment because the MSQ trained me to expect her around every corner lmao