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  1. #1
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    Xendros's Avatar
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    Jeawen Zendrosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by chizLemons View Post
    I was actually VERY uncomfortable a little before that when she asked her to hold her hand because she was scared...uh, what? Excuse me? No, go away. I don't even know you. You barely ever asked about me as a person anyway, and I'm supposed to believe we're that close?! For how much time we were forced to spend with her, I don't feel like we got close AT ALL.
    And then she also asks you to treat her like family? No, I refuse.



    I've been around aviation my entire life so I can empathize with people who are scared to fly. I deal with them constantly. Unfortunately, my real world experience clouded my judgement during that cutscene. I hated myself after the fact because I fell into the writer's trap and agreed to hold her hand.
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    Last edited by Xendros; 07-11-2024 at 10:34 PM.

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    Liz Ard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xendros View Post
    I've been around aviation my entire life so I can empathize with people who are scared to fly. I deal with them constantly. Unfortunately, my real world experience clouded my judgement during that cutscene. I hated myself after the fact because I fell into the writer's trap and agreed to hold her hand.
    Oh I can see how that scene could work from that perspective. You're very kind!
    It's not an experience I had first hand, so my main focus was "I don't even know you. The WoL barely has any physical touch with my close friends Scions, and yet I'm supposed to feel bad for you and hold YOUR hand?"
    And also...Erenville was right there. When you refuse and say "go ask Erenville" she is all "noo but he wouldn't understand!!!"...but aren't they supposed to be childhood friends? As much as Erenville acts like he doesn't care in the surface, we are only here BECAUSE he cares - it was him that introduced us to her, because he wanted to help her. Erenville doesn't even hear that anyway, so the scene ends there. Now that I'm thinking about it, I actually think the scene could've been a cute character moment if he was there, and then offered his hand to her!
    Also at this point I was just over her being scared and sick everytime we had to take any kind of transportation.

    I'm curious though, if you say yes, do you actually hold her hand in the cutscene?
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    Jeawen Zendrosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by chizLemons View Post
    Oh I can see how that scene could work from that perspective. You're very kind!
    It's not an experience I had first hand, so my main focus was "I don't even know you. The WoL barely has any physical touch with my close friends Scions, and yet I'm supposed to feel bad for you and hold YOUR hand?"
    And also...Erenville was right there. When you refuse and say "go ask Erenville" she is all "noo but he wouldn't understand!!!"...but aren't they supposed to be childhood friends? As much as Erenville acts like he doesn't care in the surface, we are only here BECAUSE he cares - it was him that introduced us to her, because he wanted to help her. Erenville doesn't even hear that anyway, so the scene ends there. Now that I'm thinking about it, I actually think the scene could've been a cute character moment if he was there, and then offered his hand to her!
    Also at this point I was just over her being scared and sick everytime we had to take any kind of transportation.

    I'm curious though, if you say yes, do you actually hold her hand in the cutscene?

    Nah, it just fades to black like normal.
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    Hen'iel Jackel
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    Quote Originally Posted by chizLemons View Post
    I was actually VERY uncomfortable a little before that when she asked her to hold her hand because she was scared...uh, what? Excuse me? No, go away. I don't even know you. You barely ever asked about me as a person anyway, and I'm supposed to believe we're that close?! For how much time we were forced to spend with her, I don't feel like we got close AT ALL.
    And then she also asks you to treat her like family? No, I refuse.
    Yeah for me that and the whole stay with her and family (with the scions at least there was development and Haurchefaunt went out of his way to beg his father to take us in) was also kind of too personal to quickly.
    I don‘t mind the whole being close friends to family trope but there was no natural progress I felt. It seemed more forced as a kind of „look isn‘t she great? You are totally besties now forever and ever“.
    I know I‘m not the norm and most people probably didn‘t mind but… maybe it would have been better to do that stuff at the end of the expansion or after the patches.
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    Wuk Lamat as a character is a bit averagely written... Like a Lyse 2.0... Didn't hate or love the character, just a bit underwhelming. Same goes for the VA, she did a decent enough job, a bit lacking during heightened emotion scenes but still a bit endearing during regular scenes. 5/10 MSQ middle of the road, let's see where it goes... 3.6 Roentgen, not great, not terrible.
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    Haley Comet
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    XIV has never had one NPC dominate screentime like this before and they decided the first one to do it should be Wuk Lamat? What were they thinking? Even if she had amazing writing and development it would have been too much.
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    Nia Niyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by mouse_marple View Post
    XIV has never had one NPC dominate screentime like this before and they decided the first one to do it should be Wuk Lamat? What were they thinking? Even if she had amazing writing and development it would have been too much.
    Even if Emet selch himself had that much screentime, it would get droning.
    No character, no matter how charismatic or interesting can be on screen that long without becomig annoying
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    Bella Chia
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    Even if Emet selch himself had that much screentime, it would get droning.
    No character, no matter how charismatic or interesting can be on screen that long without becomig annoying
    somehow this remind me of Ardbert when he told us he didn't tailing WoL all the time because he respect our 'privacy'
    stark contrast in character indeed
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    Lio Diateles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellybell View Post
    somehow this remind me of Ardbert when he told us he didn't tailing WoL all the time because he respect our 'privacy'
    stark contrast in character indeed
    Ardbert was so good.

    But Ardbert was us, so he understood the need for privacy. I'm now imagining a ghostly shard-self of Wuk Lamat's constantly hovering around her and never giving her a moment of peace. Karmic justice.
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    Last edited by PaleYonder; 07-12-2024 at 08:39 PM. Reason: typo

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    Asane Paran
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleYonder View Post
    I'm now imagining a ghostly shard-self of Wuk Lamat's constantly hovering around her and never giving her a moment of peace. Karmic justice. This now

    And constantly asking for validation... Maybe BeneG. will do someting along those lines
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