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  1. #1111
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Yall are just way to suseptable to Russion/GOP (literally the same thing) propaganda
    I think it's the other way around. Russian propoganda wants you to think nothing is wrong and to just ignore it happening in front of you. Next thing you know the game is filled with Wuk Lamats in every expansion in every scene and the Scions are cardboard cutouts.
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  2. #1112
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Voice Acting becomes a career > Trans person hired for a character that is not trans and no mention of trans appears in product, customer would not even know actor is trans if not told by a third party > OMG The cisky is falling the cisky is falling! I AM NOT BEING REPRESENTED omg I'm a victim, I'm a victim! Oh, won't someone please think of us!

    Seriously, the actor being trans has absolutely nothing to do with this poorly written expac lol. Yall are just way to suseptable to Russion/GOP (literally the same thing) propaganda and just making things up for rage cause that is what you have been programmed to do
    The only reason we know the actor is trans is because the acting is so absolutely god awful terrible, we got off the game to look up what the hell was going on.
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  3. #1113
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    The writing is done by the JP team. JP is complaining about it. 99.9% of the issues with the MSQ has nothing to do with Kate or Sweet Baby.

    Please stop injecting this dumbass culture war into this, you're making the rest of the complaints look terrible and will only give SE an excuse to ignore all of the complaints because they think it's just culture war.
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  4. #1114
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Voice Acting becomes a career > Trans person hired for a character that is not trans and no mention of trans appears in product, customer would not even know actor is trans if not told by a third party > OMG The cisky is falling the cisky is falling! I AM NOT BEING REPRESENTED omg I'm a victim, I'm a victim! Oh, won't someone please think of us!

    Seriously, the actor being trans has absolutely nothing to do with this poorly written expac lol. Yall are just way to suseptable to Russion/GOP (literally the same thing) propaganda and just making things up for rage cause that is what you have been programmed to do
    Yes, the story is rough and Wuk Lamat the main issue behind all of it. I played with JP dub and even then it was a travesty. But guess what, Wuk Lamat's ENG voice actor was clearly miscast and made an already bad story even worse by having to hear a really bad voice performance throughout most of it. You can point fingers and try to shift the blame towards the voice cast director of whomever, but the performance was bad, and people took notice, and they also started wondering how such a subpar performance was allowed to happen in a game that often gets praised for it's amazing voice acting post-ARR.
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  5. #1115
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    The writing is done by the JP team. JP is complaining about it. 99.9% of the issues with the MSQ has nothing to do with Kate or Sweet Baby.

    Please stop injecting this dumbass culture war into this, you're making the rest of the complaints look terrible and will only give SE an excuse to ignore all of the complaints because they think it's just culture war.
    The EN script changes a lot of nuances in the story. Has been the case since A Realm Reborn. It's the only localization that does it too, FR and DE are about as faithful to the japanese script as you can get. Furthermore the voice actors/actresses are not selected by SE of Japan. Each region has its own studio in charge of head hunting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    The EN script changes a lot of nuances in the story. Has been the case since A Realm Reborn. It's the only localization that does it too, FR and DE are about as faithful to the japanese script as you can get. Furthermore the voice actors/actresses are not selected by SE of Japan. Each region has its own studio in charge of head hunting them.
    Most of those changes affect lore, not the storyline.

    The EN localization department and any other culture war scapegoats that people are throwing out are not the reason Wuk Lamat is written as an annoying teenage girl, not the reason the story repeats the same "we need to understand everyone!" moralizing a million times in the MSQ, not the reason Wuk Lamat got infinite screentime at the expense of everyone else, not the reason the story is written for 4 year olds who can't handle any stress,
    ...

    Yoshi P himself said they wanted something lighthearted because the IRL world is on fire. Supposedly to them light-hearted = depth at the level of a half-dried shallow pool in the desert and light-hearted = resort to using shonen and slice of life anime tropes that only hikikomoris and 4 year olds enjoy.
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    Last edited by HighlanderClone; 07-07-2024 at 09:37 AM.

  7. #1117
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    So finally beat MSQ this afternoon and at least there was one momentary positive thing that happened. After winning the final trial I got one dialog choice finally that let me call BS on literally the entire last zone, the last dungeon, and the last trial by calling out the "big bad" for what they were. A pre programmed AI with it's hard coded decision making process based on a dead person that had no more agency in the story than I did.
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  8. #1118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheaven182 View Post
    Kate is literally on video in many streams talking about pushing woke politics proudly into square enix's games.
    Just like those people do for every thing else they force themselves into, how western "localizers" boast on twitter/X how how "proud" they are of "getting rid of the straight white -ist -phobes"

    Maybe, just maybe if they stop listening to people who hate them the EN localizers will be replaced with AI translation.
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    Last edited by DiscoDuck; 07-07-2024 at 09:49 AM.

  9. #1119
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    The writing is done by the JP team. JP is complaining about it. 99.9% of the issues with the MSQ has nothing to do with Kate or Sweet Baby.

    Please stop injecting this dumbass culture war into this, you're making the rest of the complaints look terrible and will only give SE an excuse to ignore all of the complaints because they think it's just culture war.
    Given all the woke things SE has been called out for, do you think they don't have a few folks in the JP office on tap from the woke crowd? Being made in Japan doesn't mean much anymore given how everything can be done over the internet and SE's track record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SushiOishiiii View Post
    Given all the woke things SE has been called out for, do you think they don't have a few folks in the JP office on tap from the woke crowd? Being made in Japan doesn't mean much anymore given how everything can be done over the internet and SE's track record.
    If you believe that, make a separate thread or go on 4chan or something. You're seriously making the rest of us look bad and will just decrease the possibility of any reflection on SE's end. People are already not taking the complaints seriously because they think it's just another culture war issue.

    Also, Dawntrail isn't even woke. You're telling me woke = some white guys with PhDs waltz into a tribal village and tell them what their own festival does because the tribe is literally too low IQ to know wtf their own festival is for? Or the tribe based in what is clearly inspired by Machu Picchu being literally called Pelupelu. LOL.
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    Last edited by HighlanderClone; 07-07-2024 at 09:44 AM.

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