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  1. #111
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    Tsurayu's Avatar
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    Yuki Furostomi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I'm torn honestly.

    Her consistent, early on self-deprication and mewlings gets really grating. I believe I understand from the perspective of the writers. Wuk Lamat is supposed to be a sort of foil for the Warrior of Light and the Scions in general, too. She's not some battle-hardened hero, slayer of gods, or diplomatic savant. She's a young girl who is in over her head and having to learn that the world is far more vast, intriguing and complicated than her proverbial back yard.

    However, as someone who regularly plays other JRPGs alongside this game, that is a very tired and overused trope that I really didn't want to see used in this game.

    The issue is compounded by Sena Bryer's lackluster delivery. She's fine a majority of the time, but my god.. I don't know if her Wuk Lamat is far removed from her normal voice or if she's just very amateurish and not skilled at projection, but every time her character has to yell or just speak beyond a normal six-inch voice it sounds absolutely horrendous and forced. Completely takes you out of the experience.
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  2. #112
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    Malthir's Avatar
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    Malthir Durnith
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsurayu View Post
    I'm torn honestly.

    Her consistent, early on self-deprication and mewlings gets really grating. I believe I understand from the perspective of the writers. Wuk Lamat is supposed to be a sort of foil for the Warrior of Light and the Scions in general, too. She's not some battle-hardened hero, slayer of gods, or diplomatic savant. She's a young girl who is in over her head and having to learn that the world is far more vast, intriguing and complicated than her proverbial back yard.

    However, as someone who regularly plays other JRPGs alongside this game, that is a very tired and overused trope that I really didn't want to see used in this game.

    The issue is compounded by Sena Bryer's lackluster delivery. She's fine a majority of the time, but my god.. I don't know if her Wuk Lamat is far removed from her normal voice or if she's just very amateurish and not skilled at projection, but every time her character has to yell or just speak beyond a normal six-inch voice it sounds absolutely horrendous and forced. Completely takes you out of the experience.
    They should have just made her a gate guards style character imo, someone who brings the characters into the city, has some occasional appearances early on and fades into the background as the story progresses. Either that or they needed to seriously work on her as a character, cause as it stands it's just dragging every other character down.
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  3. #113
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    Then I hate to be the one to tell you this, you have awful taste. She is intrinsically a poorly written character, she has zero redeeming qualities, no real addition to the plot, she does nothing useful, offers nothing of value but we are expected to root for her because guys, she really really cares. Who wrote this, I can't imagine it was the same people that wrote shb because this is literally trash. She's written as if she is a 14 year old girls self instead fan fic.

    The warrior of light is on her side, because he believes in her, thanks for making that decision about my character for me. We have no reason to get involved in any of this political stuff. The idea is we are on and adventure, remember when we went to literally the end of the universe, well apparently that wasn't adventurous enough so now we climb a mountain path trading alpaca wool, lol aren't we so funny uwu. Jesus I don't think I've seen worse writing since WoW shadowlands. Also can anyone further in the story than myself answer a simple question, does anyone at any point in time mention the monsters that came down from the sky like a year ago that turned people into monstrosities and was trying to destroy the world? Cause it definitely feels like it's all being a just don't think about it.
    Sooo... something that is 100% completely subjective makes me or anyone else for that matter have bad taste?

    We all have our opinions, and we should be respectful for other people's opinions, not belittle them, else what does that say about your character as a person?
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  4. #114
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    Malthir's Avatar
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    Malthir Durnith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Sooo... something that is 100% completely subjective makes me or anyone else for that matter have bad taste?

    We all have our opinions, and we should be respectful for other people's opinions, not belittle them, else what does that say about your character as a person?
    It's not subjective, it's objectively true that she is a 2D character, which is why I asked the other people who claimed they liked her to point out any actual well written aspect to her character that provides any kind of depth, I'm still waiting for an answer, feel free to be the person that gives one. I was mainly being abit tongue-in-cheek with you, at the end of the day like what you like, there are some absolutely trash tv shows that I binge watch and get enjoyment from, but I'm well aware they are terribly written, there's just something about them I enjoy.
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    Last edited by Malthir; 06-30-2024 at 03:31 AM.

  5. #115
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    Graveyardprincess's Avatar
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    Raven Nightshade
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    Seraph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    What?
    That response didn't even make sense, what claims are false. That she's a 2D poorly written background NPC that's been pushed to the front of the plot?

    She has no depth, her entire story to this point is, I want to lead my people because I do. She impulsive, ignorant of the world around her, insecure, again basically written as a cliché of a teenager.
    I asked you to name a single redeeming character trait that she has and you couldn't
    guess if a you think it is a teenage cliche, i guess those are better written than 99% of things anymore, because honestly she is perfect being impulisve and emotional driven are good because its honest.. unlike how old people hide behind the mask of bs. Honestly she is extremely well written you should go watch some monster high movies and read vampire kisses/the summoning then you will learn why she is perfect
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  6. #116
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    It's not subjective, it's objectively true that she is a 2D character, which is why I asked the other people who claimed they liked her to point out any actual well written aspect to her character that provides any kind of depth, I'm still waiting for an answer, feel free to be the person that gives one.
    I don't have to engage in any conversation I don't want too, especially with a rude person that has such lack of respect of other people's opinions, in any rate hope you enjoy what you like.

    I am simply enjoy the game and the journey of it all. And with that, I bid you adieu.
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  7. #117
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    The story is pretty awful without even considering Wuk.

    This has to be a bait post.
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  8. #118
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    CosmoBabylonia's Avatar
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    Vigna Ghina
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graveyardprincess View Post
    guess if a you think it is a teenage cliche, i guess those are better written than 99% of things anymore, because honestly she is perfect being impulisve and emotional driven are good because its honest.. unlike how old people hide behind the mask of bs. Honestly she is extremely well written you should go watch some monster high movies and read vampire kisses/the summoning then you will learn why she is perfect
    You absolutely do not want impulsive and emotionally vulnerable leaders.

    Just give Machiavelli a read and it will change your perspective on what an effective leader has to think about.

    The greatest example I want to give of an impulsive and emotionally unstable/vulnerable leader is the fabled Austrian Painter himself. You can probably find essays on his mental well being as well as his impulsive nature; hell the entire Eastern Front just speaks for itself.
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    Last edited by CosmoBabylonia; 06-30-2024 at 03:59 AM.

  9. #119
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    Raven2014's Avatar
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graveyardprincess View Post
    guess if a you think it is a teenage cliche, i guess those are better written than 99% of things anymore, because honestly she is perfect being impulisve and emotional driven are good because its honest..
    It's called naive. Kid are wonderfully innocent, that also make them easy to manipulate. Also let me remind you some very simple fact of life:

    - For someone to be old, they had to be young before.

    - But someone who is still young, they had never been old before.

    It mean chance is, the same people you are arguing against once upon a time, thought exact the same way you do ... until they grew up. But you have never had a chance to think like they do. Seeing you show so much hate for the old and growth up, you better brace yourself so you don't end up hating yourself in another decade or two. Unless you believe you're someone super special that would be able to avoid the path countless generation had walked before you, in that case you should think about running for president heh?
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  10. #120
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    SirShady's Avatar
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    Ryodin Wake
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 90
    This is becoming my Graveyardprincess popcorn thread. It's like looking back at my sister's scene days in middle school.
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