See my previous comment about how Naruto has more to his character shown in the first 30 minute Anime episode than multi hour long MSQ for Wuk.
People who think you needs years to develop good characters and stories are coping super hard right now.
We could literally compare the entirety of Dawntrail to only the first half of Season 1 of Naruto, and he'd still have more character development.
Bingo. The first story arc of Naruto is 20 episodes, 30 minutes each (well...less than 30 minutes when you account for the intro, ending and commercial breaks).
That's less than 10 hours of run time for the first arc of Naruto. Dawntrail's MSQ is longer than 10 hours for sure . . . and in all that time it absolutely doesn't even come close to the developing the characters, overarching story or world as good as the Naruto does.
But it's OK, let the people on high grade copium keep telling themselves you need literally decades to have any sort of good story be told.
I haven't finished the expansion yet. My experience so far has been Wuk Lamat. Spoilerish below.
This creature wearing lion skin takes away from every moment we're intended to feel something, Erenville... Krile, have both been done dirty. What little we get for them is sucked dry by this hairy creature's constant droning, drooling and attention-seeking behavior versus anything that is not centered around herself. Somehow the story makes everything about the main character, Wuk Lamat. Even if she really, really should not be focused on in the final zone. The spotlight just kind of dims on anyone who isn't her. I don't know how else to describe it. Why am I even here? Why did we even need to include the WoL in Tural? There was no fun filled adventure, no vacation. We've just been stuck with the Main Character and are being once again forced to save teh wourld, except I doubt it will be us. Seeing as how they've been forcing the Main Character, Wuk Lamat, into just about every bit of dialogue there is, even when she isn't there. We were finally learning more about Krile in this dingy heated cave and oh man, there goes Wuk complaining about being bored over a silly series of questions. Well excuuuuuuuuse us princess, we were focused on someone else who wasn't YOU for once you insufferable hairy creature.
Good gods. Please don't tell me we're going to be stuck with her for the next expansion. I'm so sick of her. I do not want to share pixel space with the creature. Every time she speaks it irritates me. The voice acting choice of Wuk Lamat is odd and awful. I don't give a damn about being a side character. If someone is going to be the main character of an expansion, write them to be interesting, for the sake of all that is good, please - please write real flaws into characters, give them proper arcs. Who the hell was responsible for this? I'm experiencing brain rot.
I pre-ordered this rotten fruit of an expansion because I was genuinely excited for a fun vacation arc, low stakes, exploration of a beautiful land and the absolute pleasure of meeting many a new beautiful peoples. Instead I got Wuktrail the Wukkening. I'm so Wukked right now. It's Llamateable.
Randomly expressing my frustration at hearing the scions call Wuk Lamat 'Llama Tea'. it is bad enough the scions we had with us have had no agency as characters, or that their personalities forgot to board the ship with their character models, or that they are all wedged between a rock and Wuk Lamat's open mouth breathing. Hearing Alisae call Wuk Lamat 'Llama Tea' after forming no relationship with the character, is truly like watching a live, visual retelling of someone's self insert OC fanfiction into FFXIV and settling herself into the centre of attention of the main cast.
The cherry on the top of all this, is it's a fanfic bad writer too. Wuk Lamat is an insufferable character, with no character development because she was perfect from the start and the characters around her were left to the side without development while someone prioritized and furiously brainstormed what the best possible affectionate name her beloved OC could have instead.
So I just finished DT, and I'm kind of at a loss for words. I got early access too, and it took me this long to power through it. I had to go to these forums to see that I'm not crazy.
I'm torn between writing a huge essay about everything that made no sense or annoyed me, or just sitting in silence and whispering "wtf" over and over. I just can't believe what I just had to force myself through. I never skip cutscenes, and the last time I felt vaguely annoyed like this was during Stormblood. Even ARR was tolerable, and I played it before the purge. This was... something else. The whole thing was a slog. Was it ai generated?
I don't even know what to say. How is it even possible to got from ShB and even EW to... this??? Like I know every expac has its problems, but I usually power through it, ez, because the story makes up for it.
The part at the very end when Wuk inserts herself, yet again, even physically blocking WoL from sight when talking to Speeeen, that made me actually laugh out loud. And then it was followed by that Disney song. Perfect way to end it. The whole thing was absurd. Idk anymore.
Dattebayo, as Wuk Lamat would probably say.
Of all the characters in the game, there hasn't been one I really hated until now. I mean sure there were villains like Asahi, but I didn't "hate" them as a character.
Wuk Lamat on the other hand I can't even comprehend how this character was greenlit. I really can't wrap my head around that someone played through this in testing and was like "yup this is what people want".
This character is exactly Poochie from the Simpsons. "Whenever Poochies not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, 'where's poochie?'"
And it's not even the EN voice acting (which was still bad), just the character as a whole. Every word that comes out of her mouth just felt empty, especially during that last encounter vs Sphene.
I really really really hope she never appears again in the 7.xx patches. Wuk's story should have ended when she got the throne, then the second half should just be purely Krile and Erenville and we go off to Heritage Found without her.
I hope the 7.xx patches are us going to shards or whatever and we never need to talk to her again.
And I really hope the devs don't think "oh we can fix this character, lets give her some hardships in the 7.xx patches to build her character" or something. The water is already poisoned, all future events for the character I can only attribute to some cheap attempt the writers are using to try to save this character. I mean they already shoved in our faces how perfect and great she was the whole story, it didn't work, please let us just move on without her.
Last edited by PotatoTree; 07-13-2024 at 07:01 AM.
Welcome to reality with the rest of us, friend. Here's your emotional support flying squirrel.So I just finished DT, and I'm kind of at a loss for words. I got early access too, and it took me this long to power through it. I had to go to these forums to see that I'm not crazy.
I'm torn between writing a huge essay about everything that made no sense or annoyed me, or just sitting in silence and whispering "wtf" over and over. I just can't believe what I just had to force myself through. I never skip cutscenes, and the last time I felt vaguely annoyed like this was during Stormblood. Even ARR was tolerable, and I played it before the purge. This was... something else. The whole thing was a slog. Was it ai generated?
I don't even know what to say. How is it even possible to got from ShB and even EW to... this??? Like I know every expac has its problems, but I usually power through it, ez, because the story makes up for it.
The part at the very end when Wuk inserts herself, yet again, even physically blocking WoL from sight when talking to Speeeen, that made me actually laugh out loud. And then it was followed by that Disney song. Perfect way to end it. The whole thing was absurd. Idk anymore.
Dattebayo, as Wuk Lamat would probably say.
Blackguard Big Boggart from Elden Ring that only has maybe 30 minutes worth of scenes had a more engaging backstory and development then Wuk Lamat and his entire thing is he liked cooking crustaceans.
The menacing aura of every Lalafell.
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