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    Seriously, you are calling this a graphic update?

    Sorry for the aggressive title, but I really can't accept it.

    This is my wol before and after the update.
    Do these two really look like the same characters? Or do they seem to be better after the update? The eyes, nose and mouth are all different, so I just can't accept the current graphic as my wol. Just give me my wol back Please.
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    Last edited by ana_naa; 06-28-2024 at 08:12 PM.

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    If it makes you feel any better, yours is just a cosmetic problem. The game now causes unbearable eyestrain for me, and it looks like I won't be able to play the game anymore.

    Oh well, guess I had a good run.
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    Last edited by Wind-Krysvein; 06-28-2024 at 08:19 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Krysvein View Post
    If it makes you feel any better, yours is just a cosmetic problem. The game now causes unbearable eyestrain for me, and it looks like I won't be able to play the game anymore.

    Oh well, guess I had a good run.
    I noticed this right away as well. Like within the first few seconds. I have no idea what they were thinking, because something is causing immediate eye strain.

    Maybe try turning on the limb darkening, I did both that and turned down the gamma and that helped slightly.
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    They did say the graphics update would result in many characters not matching up 1:1 with how they looked in Endwalker. It's why they're offering a free fantasia so you can tweak your WoL or switch to another race entirely. It's more about ensuring faces look better overall in the long run, and I do think the DT update improved the OP's look.

    That said there are definitely areas where I think most people would agree that specific updated facial features resulted in a downgrade to some characters' appearance. So rather than objecting that your character does not look exactly the same as it did in 6.58, if you instead point out differences that most players would think need to be tweaked -- even if they don't play that race -- there will be a stronger case for them to continue to iterate on the graphics update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesius View Post
    They did say the graphics update would result in many characters not matching up 1:1 with how they looked in Endwalker. It's why they're offering a free fantasia so you can tweak your WoL or switch to another race entirely. It's more about ensuring faces look better overall in the long run, and I do think the DT update improved the OP's look.
    The changes that have been made in this update are not things that can be tweaked. They're often issues with the basic shape of the face, or the same type of alteration has been made to all four choices, or the difference between choices is just as much of a problem as the difference between old and new design.

    It doesn't even matter if an observer finds the face "improved" as a straightforward preference. The exact details of the face create a particular identity and personality, and we have "known" our individual characters for years. We know what they look like and whether they smile or frown at rest. The benchmark has in many cases changed that in ways we cannot fix, and the exact character is lost.

    The replacement person might be prettier but we just want the same person back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It doesn't even matter if an observer finds the face "improved" as a straightforward preference. The exact details of the face create a particular identity and personality, and we have "known" our individual characters for years. We know what they look like and whether they smile or frown at rest. The benchmark has in many cases changed that in ways we cannot fix, and the exact character is lost.

    The replacement person might be prettier but we just want the same person back.
    I definitely understand the sentiment, but at this point I don't think it will be possible for them to adjust the graphics update such that everyone's WoL looks as they did before, and even if they could they won't because it would result in people using a fantasia now only to find later that the graphics have been updated again.

    It's a matter of setting realistic expectations and focusing on giving feedback that the devs can actually act upon. They can't do anything to bring the same WoL back, but they can make improvements to help us fall in love with them again.
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    Last edited by Caesius; 06-28-2024 at 10:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The changes that have been made in this update are not things that can be tweaked. They're often issues with the basic shape of the face, or the same type of alteration has been made to all four choices, or the difference between choices is just as much of a problem as the difference between old and new design.

    It doesn't even matter if an observer finds the face "improved" as a straightforward preference. The exact details of the face create a particular identity and personality, and we have "known" our individual characters for years. We know what they look like and whether they smile or frown at rest. The benchmark has in many cases changed that in ways we cannot fix, and the exact character is lost.

    The replacement person might be prettier but we just want the same person back.
    Thanks, for commenting what I wanted to say. I'm the one who saw my character the most and it is I who notices the difference the most. And even using Fantasia, won't get back to the character I loved. I know everyone can't be satisfied, but I can't help but be upset. Just really hope she comes back.
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    Au Ra Female faces are unrecognisable

    The best I could do to fix the new dead-eyed stare and permanently pursed but cheerful (?) lips was to add limbal rings, more eye make-up and change the mouth altogether. Eyes still look dead but at least more awake, the mouth is the hollywood glam lips which is the only option better than 3 types of small pursed lips. I can't do anything about the no- longer-round face shape because the other options are worse. Even with spending a fantasia to make minor changes, it doesn't come close to how expressive the faces were before, which was great for rp. I'm just hoping the ffxiv devs read the forum's feedback and improve them again in upcoming patches because this aspect of the 'update' is a solid step back from where they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Krysvein View Post
    If it makes you feel any better, yours is just a cosmetic problem. The game now causes unbearable eyestrain for me, and it looks like I won't be able to play the game anymore.

    Oh well, guess I had a good run.
    To me, everything looks brighter and unnaturally blue, especially in sunlit areas. Looking at it makes my eyes burn. Some operating systems have a built-in option to reduce blue light from your screen (Night Light on Windows 10/11, and Night Shift on MacOS, for example). This decreases eyestrain for me, so I prefer to have it on all the time, but FFXIV 7.0 seems to be especially bad without it.
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