Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Neytirhi]

I looked at some Endwalker pics, and gosh the eyebrow color change is such a bother. They're just invisible comparatively. Some comparison pics (sorry they're not as good. The emotes don't really look quite the same anymore so it's harder to get matching angles).I know the skintone is different, I changed it to a bit warmer for Dawntrail, so don't mind that.

Endwalker


Dawntrail

Hey there ! I've been following your bug reports since Benchmark 1.1, I have the same issue as you with my miqo'te and I'm devastated.

I just can't start the MSQ with that face... I even had the early access, but come on... cutscenes looking eyebrowless?? No way!

I also tried the other faces and the other tribe and just as you said, it feels so unfair that we're the only one with this issue ; and since the same face for the Seekers have eyebrows that looks just fine/other faces have the right color, I'm convinced it's a bug, not a choice. Even more when you see that in Benchmark 1.0, there was no issue with that.

EW Face :


Benchmark 1.0 Face :


DT :


I was so happy with 1st Benchmark....


My other complain is about emotes/face in general, as many : I have to change so many portraits because now they looked super weird. For instance the taunt emote looks dumb now for some reason and gives a super puffy face.

I don't have an HQ version of it in EW since I could'nt possibly think I would need to take a proper screenshot of it before DT (it's from team portraits so it is small),
but here is a comparison of my BM portrait in EW vs in DT, using the taunt emote :



DT just gives "i'm so tired huhu" vibes... ugh (and eyebrows gone on vacations doesn't help ovbiously)
I don't have screens of the worst portait because I changed it right away, it looked terrible after DT (but again the same tired vibe & puffy).


So in conclusion, my character in DT looks now eyebrowless and like a hamster with cheeks filled with food, and I should do MSQ looking like this? Heck no!


How can we make things change and reach SE efficiently?? I'm desperate...... Feels like they don't care about those bug reports
Is there anyone talking about the eyebrows in the japanese bug report forum?

[Tahli]

Benchmark 1.0 Face :


DT :


I was so happy with 1st Benchmark...

The first benchmark was so much more flattering on Miqo'te.

[smitten_miquitten]

I also tried the other faces and the other tribe and just as you said, it feels so unfair that we're the only one with this issue ; and since the same face for the Seekers have eyebrows that looks just fine/other faces have the right color, I'm convinced it's a bug, not a choice. Even more when you see that in Benchmark 1.0, there was no issue with that.

I really really hope they actually read my new bug and either make it the main one instead of my old bug for benchmark 2, or add the Seeker vs Keeper info to the old one if they won't swap them. I'm really worried they'll go "Dupe!" and yeet it without reading that there's new relevant info that I can't add to the original bug (such a silly policy imo, why is adding new stuff not possible?).

[smitten_miquitten]

After work I'm going to get screenshots for different eyebrow colors too. All of the Keeper ones go greyish as they get lighter it seems like, not just white and blonde.

[GreenLeafy]

The neckseam is so bad on some races it should be it's own thread with a clear title regarding it.

Was in a Ruby Weapon farm today and noticed that for whatever reason Nael also suffers from this?


It has been a long time since I ran that trial but I genuinely don't remember her having that and am completely lost how this even is translating to unique models.

[Rueby]

Was in a Ruby Weapon farm today and noticed that for whatever reason Nael also suffers from this?


It has been a long time since I ran that trial but I genuinely don't remember her having that and am completely lost how this even is translating to unique models.

Feels like someone hit sharpen (ENHANCE!) like 20 times on her head...I can see the artifacting lmao....Feels like AI upscaling at this point...

I couldn't find a good picture of her face that's HQ but I found this. What did they do to my babygirl...

Forum apparently hates this link https://huiji-public.huijistatic.com...9%E5%86%99.png

[Cheapshot]

I'm convinced it's a bug, not a choice. Even more when you see that in Benchmark 1.0, there was no issue with that.

[snip]

I was so happy with 1st Benchmark....

How can we make things change and reach SE efficiently?? I'm desperate...... Feels like they don't care about those bug reports
Is there anyone talking about the eyebrows in the japanese bug report forum?

So, I can offer some kind of extra information that might help out your bug reports. It’s not that there was no problem in the first benchmark, it’s that there was the opposite problem. When they replaced the brow textures (with one the same resolution for some reason??) brows became too light. So they were more visible than they used to be on darker skin but looked completely awful on lighter skin. The devs did respond to complaints but their fix seems to have just been make them even darker than originally so they’re almost invisible on dark skin now.

One thing I’ve noticed is how flat the brow texture looks and I wonder if that’s part of it? It feels like there were multiple tones in the brow as well as different levels of transparency pre DT. Maybe some alpha info and maybe a secondary overlay were originally there and lost in the update? Or maybe the pre DT eyebrows struck a balance that they are finding themselves unable to recreate (probably not helped by lack of QA). I don’t know I’m just speculating on that.

Im kinda personally wondering why they can’t just use the old brow textures that worked? Same with the eyelashes. The new textures aren’t higher resolution so what was the point? Change for no reason.

[Neytirhi]

Yeah they did that to mine when I tried to make a new post about it

[smitten_miquitten]

It may help to add more screenshots? Like I added several from Pre-Dawntrail. Granted they used Gpose filters (I'm on PS5) but the difference is still huge!
Pre Dawntrail


Dawntrail

[smitten_miquitten]

So, I can offer some kind of extra information that might help out your bug reports. It’s not that there was no problem in the first benchmark, it’s that there was the opposite problem. When they replaced the brow textures (with one the same resolution for some reason??) brows became too light. So they were more visible than they used to be on darker skin but looked completely awful on lighter skin. The devs did respond to complaints but their fix seems to have just been make them even darker than originally so they’re almost invisible on dark skin now.

One thing I’ve noticed is how flat the brow texture looks and I wonder if that’s part of it? It feels like there were multiple tones in the brow as well as different levels of transparency pre DT. Maybe some alpha info and maybe a secondary overlay were originally there and lost in the update? Or maybe the pre DT eyebrows struck a balance that they are finding themselves unable to recreate (probably not helped by lack of QA). I don’t know I’m just speculating on that.

Im kinda personally wondering why they can’t just use the old brow textures that worked? Same with the eyelashes. The new textures aren’t higher resolution so what was the point? Change for no reason.

I'm hoping they make them match what Seekers of the Sun have. Those seem totally fine! They don't seem to have any problem being visible on light or dark skin.