Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Einnecy]

Imagine now if Alphinaud and Alisaie changed, their eyes looking dead, bigger lips, bigger noses. Will that make them the same characters? Will people be happy that their fav characters changed and they don't look the same? Imagine Y'shtola a fan favorite of the fandom, having now an square jaw and very thick eyebrows, and the eyes very tiny, Would people be happy???

[UNDEAD10000]

After patch 7.0, i spend lot less time looking my character face when my character ended up looking like a lifeless doll and there is so many things that is so wrong with my character face.

Things like:
- Shape of eyes are wrong.
- Size of pupils is too big.
- Size of eyes limbal ring is too big.
- Shape of nose looks too wide.
- Shape of upper lip is too flat.
- Eyebrows are missing the details completely.
- Skin looks way too doll like.
- Scales are way too sharp.

I really wish FFXIV devs to revert all the changes to facial features, so i get my original look of my character face back.

Note that i don't have any screenshots of my character from patch 6.x when normaly i don't take screenshots and i had to use Endwalker benchmark to take screenshots of my character from patch 6.x.



Link to original size of the image:
https://i.imgur.com/atjGyIR.jpg

[grinkdaboy]

what most people seem to take issue with (at least from my point of view) is the fact that they've added many many more triangles to the face in order to give it a more realistic and rounded appearance as opposed to something more angular and lower fidelity

[Kaziek]

I've posted this about female midlander face 1, eye shape 4 in the bug report forum, in case someone wants to contribute or add more screenshots from before and after (I don't have many from before to compare).

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-1-Eye-Shape-4

This is an issue with all eye shapes for face 1 actually, and is easily the biggest issue with the character update for that face. There are several other things too that people have already pointed out in detail in this thread as well as the JP one, but if I could pick only one thing to be brought more in line with the old face it would be fixing the eyes. Unlike some of the other F midlander faces they actually reduced makeup as a whole for face 1, which is part of the reason that the under eye bags are so prominent.

[SongOfTheWind]

I made this gif to add it to that post and you can clearly see the difference in the eyes and in lips and eyebrows too.

I really don't understand what they were thinking making so many unnecessary changes... And I'm pretty annoyed they've addressed the issue with the housing lighting but not a word about our characters' faces.

Edit: I was referring to this post in the bug report forum https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...82#post6533282

Apparently housing is what truly keeps the players subbed (or why would they take people hostage over demolition?), not the characters.

[CantDecide]

I made this gif to add it to that post and you can clearly see the difference in the eyes and in lips and eyebrows too.

I really don't understand what they were thinking making so many unnecessary changes... And I'm pretty annoyed they've addressed the issue with the housing lighting but not a word about our characters' faces.

Edit: I was referring to this post in the bug report forum https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...82#post6533282

Oh gosh, this gif shows the downgrade especially clearly. What they've done to face 1 makes me so, so sad. They stripped away all its beauty.

[lunartears]

Honestly, I think it can be assumed that every single face was modified drastically (with a heavy focus on eye, eyelash, pupil, mouth corners, lip width, lip shape, eye width, entire facial features position, list goes on) just to varying degrees (sometimes the lips will stay the same but the eyes will change?) with the majority being done in a way that completely lacks the original feeling. When shown an NPC even of a race I don't have familarity with, most of the time I can immediately tell that something is off.

I could probably prove this by analyising and creating a comparision for every single face combination across all races but it would be way too tiring to pull off.

[Aurumis]

Honestly, I think it can be assumed that every single face was modified drastically (with a heavy focus on eye, eyelash, pupil, mouth corners, lip width, lip shape, eye width, entire facial features position, list goes on) just to varying degrees (sometimes the lips will stay the same but the eyes will change?) with the majority being done in a way that completely lacks the original feeling. When shown an NPC even of a race I don't have familarity with, most of the time I can immediately tell that something is off.

I could probably prove this by analyising and creating a comparision for every single face combination across all races but it would be way too tiring to pull off.

if you take a look at the japanese forum, they are doing it already...for their own characters tho, but there is so many... they DID change everything. The devs lied about not changing them or listening to the feedback of the benchmark. How is it possible that the Scions look exactly the same but better, but all the character models looks different? this is not an upgrade, it's a downgrade for many faces. Some look good? yes, but many not, and changed so much that it is not the same character, they could have left them stay the same but with high definition textures and etc, like how gshade, mods and all works, but they fucked it very badly. And it was not necessary. Like I say, it's sad that the NPCs looks exactly the same (except Thancred, he looks worse, specially his skin texture), and the WoL of the people have totally changed. Just liars.