Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[eldadyfa]

Adding my voice as well.

I submitted reports about my characters back in September 2024: 1, 2
and I’d like to point out that they still look like completely different people.

Patch 6.58 and 7.25 screenshot comparisons:

It’s been a year now, and I still don’t have the heart to continue any story content when I can’t see my characters the way they always used to look.
I'd still occasionally log in for old raids, but even then, there’s no such thing as “getting used to the new face and growing fond of it instead” for me, lol.
When I look back at the old screenshots, I can’t lie, I’m much more fond of how their faces looked before the graphics update.

Since 2020 for my Au Ra and 2022 for my Viera, I’ve never felt the need to pick a different option for their facial features at all. I was always very happy with how they looked — everything was already perfect to me.

I understand that the graphics update is needed to catch up with today’s standard, and that’s actually fine with me — if only they had retained the shapes of the characters’ facial features, so they could "preserve the overall look that you know and love", as they once said.

[moodud]

Can i ask you to do a simple screenshot of the female middie face 2 please? The lips looks really good and way closer to their original version!
I tried to create a wechat account but it doesn't work at all, to test it by myself, and i just wanted to see if their face are faithfull to the pre 7.0 version
Thank you very much in advance ! ♥

Of course. But since I don’t actually know what particular parts you are looking for I’d just post them all.
Type 1 is jaw type 1, eye type 1, nose type 1, and so on. Type 5 is eyes and brows? I don’t remember sorry.
No facial feature.

[Rawazh]

Of course. But since I don’t actually know what particular parts you are looking for I’d just post them all.
Type 1 is jaw type 1, eye type 1, nose type 1, and so on. Type 5 is eyes and brows? I don’t remember sorry.
No facial feature.

It's more than i hoped for, thank you so so much !!
i just really wanted to see the overall feel of the face, which was quite angular compared to the other faces, they also had more putty lips and looked older in general, and i feel like with DT they lost all that made them a bit special !
As you can see with the comparison :
(I couldn't do a proper DT screenshot because i canceled my sub so i have no access to the game, i took old screenshots from the msq, but i barely took some since, i'm still having a hard time to recognize my character, i lost the will to gpose and take screenshots in general)



A montage with my character feature and color skin:



(Also since DT came out i never asked for the face to be fixed since it's not popular and SE clearly do not care lol)

[Aco505]

Saw this post and it made me realize, the bodies of the characters seem to have higher quality on mobile. When are we getting that in the actual main game?

[Rawazh]

Now that i've seen that the mobile version of a lot of characters is way more faithful to the pre 7.0 version, do you think it would be ok to ask SE to take a closer look at it? why not implement those models in the PC game?

[noumen0nn]

Now that i've seen that the mobile version of a lot of characters is way more faithful to the pre 7.0 version, do you think it would be ok to ask SE to take a closer look at it? why not implement those models in the PC game?

Yes, we should be demanding that they do. The mobile version is proof that the graphics can be updated without sacrificing the original impression, and Dawntrail's own update was a complete failure in that regard. I've been showing the mobile graphics comparisons to friends who aren't in the loop inn order to spread word. Keep bombarding them with feedback and criticism until they are forced to listen.

[Daralii]

Yes, we should be demanding that they do. The mobile version is proof that the graphics can be updated without sacrificing the original impression, and Dawntrail's own update was a complete failure in that regard. I've been showing the mobile graphics comparisons to friends who aren't in the loop inn order to spread word. Keep bombarding them with feedback and criticism until they are forced to listen.

I'm sure the mantra will become "It's because Lightspeed gets to use Unreal instead of being chained to Crystal Tools" or "It's because the main game is being held back by the PS4" instead of entertaining the thought that the artists dropped the ball and can't, won't, or aren't being allowed to fix it.

[Astronis]

I'm sure the mantra will become "It's because Lightspeed gets to use Unreal instead of being chained to Crystal Tools" or "It's because the main game is being held back by the PS4" instead of entertaining the thought that the artists dropped the ball and can't, won't, or aren't being allowed to fix it.

It's a bit of all of it at the end tbh. They've spent the resources and manpower updating the mesh to be based on one base with added bones, that provides part of the "can't". They've already stated reasonings for the "won't" (and possibly "aren't allowed to") several months ago (at least in regards to some features)--quite a lot of people are pleased with the current results and quite a lot of other people have never known anything else because they are new players. SE values the opinions of happy customers and new paying customers as well as the opinions of older, displeased customers. SE has to balance the concerns of all of these players.

There are still a few things on some of the current faces I think could stand to be tweaked, but they're not going to go back and seriously change them or replace them with the mobile version's, risking the disruption that would cause to new (and new-ish--it's been a year) players.

[Rawazh]

The goal is not to ask them to replace them, is to ask them TO ADD the options here
Many people asked several time to have the choice between the pre 7.0 face and the new one, maybe the best compromise is to add the mobile version ?

They made deliberate choices about many faces no one asked at all, many stopped to play because of that - "don't worry we'll stay as close as the original as much as possible" and they failed tremendously, we just have to see how many posts there is on JP forums and here still talking about it!

This is starting to be tiring, no one asked for the graphic update, they decided to do that, good for them, but why are we paying the price ?
I never asked for my character to be smoothed as fuck, to answer a beauty criteria only because the culprit behind those changes, likes it ?

It's beyond me that the mobile version treats the game and it's players way better than the main one - are their goal to kill the pc game so that people migrate on the mobile? Would make sense.

[lunartears]

I only want the old EW face back. I have no idea how Au Ra will look on the mobile game but the original is irreplacable for me.