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  1. #11
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Dark circles still have not been removed from Duskwight males despite it being a universally disliked addition by every single poster in the JP forum.

    Considering that it is not even a model change just a simple texture, their refusal to return their racial feature (no eyebags) is baffling.
    I'm not certain that it's only a texture change.

    I have not had a chance to see what the character looks like now in the live game, but I've posted this comparison previously, from the first version of the benchmark (hiding it under a drop-down box because it's labelled 7.0 but isn't):



    You can see that the line of the tattoo now has a sharp crease under the eye rather than the gentler curve.

    Either the original tattoo design is floating in front of the face and not going all the way into the crease below the eyelid, or they've changed the shape of the face.

    And I did play around with turning the camera to different angles on the original character to see if there was a spot where the tattoo did look creased like that, but if it exists then I failed to find it.

    The shadowed eyebags seem to be a new issue for so many characters, and I really hope they can turn it off in the same way they've deliberately stopped some hairstyles from casting shadows on the face.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 06-28-2024 at 06:53 PM.

  2. #12
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    Sarantserel's Avatar
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    Sarantserel Malqir
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I am very disappointed with the changes. My girl looks very different, way more doll like and less vibrant







    And there are still some egregious issue with the scale textures :


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  3. #13
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    Tahli Val
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dancer Lv 98

    Eyes/Eyebrows shape and shading issues

    Thanks for the thread! I'll repeat my thoughts in here since the update doesn't seem to have fixed them so far.

    While I have some personal preferences like darker "mascara" on my Face 2 Miqo's eyes like they were in the first benchmark, I can live with less for the sake of those wanting it closer to the original (while simultaneously hoping a future Character Creator update adds it as an option, considering other races have toggle-able makeup as facial features, but Miqo'te do not).

    But some issues, a couple of which are in the Accepted Bugs subforum and pending confirmation, I really hope get addressed.



    [Images all taken in Character Creator in La Noscea setting, facing direct sunlight]

    That being the eyebrows of Face 2 F Miqo'te, and the shading of the iris of all Miqo'te all races upon further inspection. The shading of the iris, mentioned in my bug report here, gives the appearance of dark black lines going across the bottom half of the iris in direct lighting. It is especially noticeable on Female Keeper of the Moon, since they have large eyes, and large pupils that show only a sliver of the iris color.
    Miqo'te eyes also appear to have a grey overlay that gives the appearance of "cataracts" that wasn't as present in previous versions. Maybe or maybe not connected to this is how shading/lighting can look extreme at times, especially on pale skin.

    The eyebrows of F Miqo'te Face 2 are a separate issue, also with a more detailed bug report here. Again, I really liked how they looked in Benchmark 1 (with the tail more straight and upturned rather than a gentle curve, and a lighter color closer to the hair color), but was willing to sacrifice that slight change in shape to get closer to the original design. However, the way they changed again in the following benchmark (and current 7.0 update) was even further different, and in my opinion really just looks like comically drawn-on angry eyebrows. The base of the eyebrow has been narrowed on every eyebrow option, which feels like a bug. Even the most gentle eyebrow options like Eyebrow 2 have an angry look to them now, and the color seems darker than it should be.

    Out of all my wishes, if I could only choose one, it'd be for the eyebrows to be fixed most of all.
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    Last edited by Tahli; 08-09-2024 at 07:34 AM.

  4. #14
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    rainichan's Avatar
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I was hoping eye 3 on face 5 would have been fixed but they still look a little jarring. hopefully in a hotfix or whatnot down the line... because man, the water line in her eyes is too big still, they need to push the whites out further into the eye scoket. The original benchmark was perfect but I don't know what changed between it and then the second version benchmark.
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  5. #15
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    Veldren Haustevault
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    Coeurl
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Looks worse in every possible way. It's honestly impressive.



    The former image is outdated, but the features are all the same.
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  6. #16
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    Leleva Leva
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 47
    I posted about this in another thread, but I'll cross-post here as well since I think this thread is a better way to collect information.



    Unfortunately, the corners of the mouth on my Face 1 female Au Ra mouth are completely different, and her bottom lip is shaped differently as well, both of which give a different feeling for the face and expressions. Her smiles in particular look very unusual to me. Before, they were some of the most beautiful expressions she could make because of how warm they looked, but right now she looks like she is faking them. Her scales look lovely in the new graphics, but I cannot get over the change to her face.

    I am very disheartened by this. I was hoping Au Ra mouths would get looked at more closely after the quantity of feedback on the first Benchmark about the issue. The fact that this is an unavoidable part of the face will make it difficult for me to enjoy the MSQ.
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  7. #17
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    Serenitey's Avatar
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    Luna Star
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Sad - when will the store be back up? I want to buy another fantasia to try other races. :/ Not happy with the new graphics.
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    Wise men speak because the have something to say, fools because they have to say something. - Plato - He saw the ff forums apparently.

  8. #18
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    Argantaelle Frilaix
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    Aegis
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    White Mage Lv 50
    (Male Au Ra feedback)

    I'm very disappointed and even considering stopping playing until the issues are fixed. That's not my character anymore. I can try to correct the shape of his lips with some lipstic magic, but it won't be enough.

    How could they be so thorough with lalafell cheeks and miss such an obvious issue as a completely different mouth shape?

    P.S. I posted feedback on Japanese forums, so I'm going to just repost the link to my message here to save some space.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6501988
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    Last edited by Argantaelle; 06-28-2024 at 07:22 PM.

  9. #19
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    Luna Puella
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    As expected, my fears are true. Nothing has changed and my WoL has completely lost her identity.











    I don't know who this is. Where is my character? Who is this? What happened?

    Where is the pretty character I had before? What happened to her lips? Her grin? Her eye shape? Her gaze?

    How do I even describe how this feels? I'm sorry, but this is just the worst possible outcome. This is awful.

    I don't think I want to play the MSQ. I don't even know what to do. This is really bad. This is really really bad.
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    Last edited by lunartears; 07-05-2024 at 08:25 PM.

  10. #20
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    My seeker of the sun with Face 1 and Eye shape 6 has gone from stoic to stoned during the idle pose. It improves when using emotes, but the default face looks so vacant... Honestly not sure what to do to fix it.


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