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    Cheapshot's Avatar
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    Cheap Shot
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I really hope they take another stab at moon face 4 in general. It’s just still so different from the original, compared to other races.


    It seems really unfair that my features have been shifted this much.

    I’d also like them to address the issues with eye greyness and dullness and make more natural looking lip textures. There’s no detail to the texture aside from incorrect baked in shadows on mine, and it looks like we have lipstick on even if we select “none” in the creator.



    I can’t even remember which of these is supposed to not have lipstick so they’re in no particular order. I submitted this as a bug report but they rejected it as “not a bug report”. Not even “Intended” but “Not a bug report”. I don’t understand what that means. I wish they’d add a context post when they move reports like they do on other languages forums.
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    Last edited by Cheapshot; 07-21-2024 at 10:13 PM.

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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheapshot View Post
    I really hope they take another stab at moon face 4 in general. It’s just still so different from the original, compared to other races.
    https://i.imgur.com/6JxiItT.gif

    It seems really unfair that my features have been shifted this much.
    I like that the big mesh update that added more triangles somehow made her brow and forehead so jagged, but the PS3-era mesh is almost perfectly smooth.
    (25)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    I like that the big mesh update that added more triangles somehow made her brow and forehead so jagged, but the PS3-era mesh is almost perfectly smooth.
    Yup. I’m also really bothered by that. The lips too seem lower poly to me. I’m not understanding why they replaced eyelash and eyebrow textures either if the new ones are the same resolution. Or why I got a complete nose job, or my eyes drooped and my eyeballs poked further back into the sockets. It all seems unnecessary.
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    Apolline Moreau
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    Leviathan
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheapshot View Post
    I can’t even remember which of these is supposed to not have lipstick so they’re in no particular order. I submitted this as a bug report but they rejected it as “not a bug report”. Not even “Intended” but “Not a bug report”. I don’t understand what that means. I wish they’d add a context post when they move reports like they do on other languages forums.
    We could all submit one lol, because the top lip does look off, regardless if they feel its not a bug
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    Reverie Arbeau
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 100
    Hm... I consider this a less important matter since it's an unplayable variant, but, uh, the Garlean version of ♀ Midlander Face 5 appears to have the actual third eye misaligned with the flesh's indent.

    I'd be lying if I said this didn't make me wince though. My forehead hurts looking at it...

    Interestingly, only some of the Garlean versions of face models have been updated. ♀ Midlander Face 5 and ♂ Midlander Face 4 got updated, while ♂ Midlander Face 1 (Jullus's face) and ♂ Elezen Face 1 didn't.
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    Conant Sivrha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Does anyone have (or know of a YouTube channel that has) pre-Dawntrail recordings of a face 4 female miqo’te doing the /converse animation, and/or other animations where the mouth is open, with a good view of the face?

    I feel like these animations look incredibly strange on my face 4 (mouth 3) female miqo’te after the update. There seems to be something wrong with the top lip’s position or shape when a character with this face (or maybe just the specific mouth my character uses?) talks or opens their mouth. I’d like to be able to compare the old version with the current version to better understand what I’m seeing.
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    Shinjyu Eisenkraut
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConantSivrha View Post
    Does anyone have (or know of a YouTube channel that has) pre-Dawntrail recordings of a face 4 female miqo’te doing the /converse animation, and/or other animations where the mouth is open, with a good view of the face?

    I feel like these animations look incredibly strange on my face 4 (mouth 3) female miqo’te after the update. There seems to be something wrong with the top lip’s position or shape when a character with this face (or maybe just the specific mouth my character uses?) talks or opens their mouth. I’d like to be able to compare the old version with the current version to better understand what I’m seeing.

    here it is, my comrade fella. if anyone want pre DT recording or screenshots, I'll give it to you guys. korean server still remain 8 month to DT anyway~

    https://youtu.be/YaSRtIcNJVI?si=8DXQlWrm1YuJgZAs
    (18)

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    Kokiche Verden
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    Jenova
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by shinjyu View Post
    here it is, my comrade fella. if anyone want pre DT recording or screenshots, I'll give it to you guys. korean server still remain 8 month to DT anyway~

    https://youtu.be/YaSRtIcNJVI?si=8DXQlWrm1YuJgZAs
    God I miss , at the very least , the colour of the old teeth models...it didn't feel like Veneer Fantasy. I miss that Sunseeker miqo look T__T I ran some ARR with an alt that has that same face and her mouth animations and eyelids kind of stretch weird often in cutscenes. Tinkering with facial meshes seems to have really janked up the custom animations for some cutscenes.
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    Vera Nova
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    Spriggan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by shinjyu View Post
    here it is, my comrade fella. if anyone want pre DT recording or screenshots, I'll give it to you guys. korean server still remain 8 month to DT anyway~

    https://youtu.be/YaSRtIcNJVI?si=8DXQlWrm1YuJgZAs
    Can I ask you for the facial expressions for Face 4 Miqo as well? Keeper if you can if not that's okay...looking at that vid made me really miss my old char :/
    I made a video on the new facial expression emotes but I think I missed 1. I posted it earlier.
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    Tharia Alvemer
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    I was hoping that the devs would react, at least a word would have been enough. But so far nothing has happened and with every day that passes my hope is fading.
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