Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Iscah]

There was some discussion in the Updated Benchmark thread that we should shift to a new thread as the title would no longer be accurate for discussing the graphics update once Dawntrail was released. So I am setting this up in preparation, with a title parallel to the Japanese discussion thread, and hopefully we can keep the discussion flowing here.

Previous main discussion: Updated Benchmark

[Azureskies01]

My request is for them to stop listening to the forums for what they want in graphics and just make their artistic vision. You saw it with the stupid eye reflection change, the forums are full of people crying about -redacted- they know nothing about.

I mean it is good that they don't read or care about the NA forums but they need to have a bit of that energy for the JP one too.

[lunartears]

I mean it is good that they don't read or care about the NA forums but they need to have a bit of that energy for the JP one too.

Interesting.

On a more relevant note, will keep this thread in mind for today. Very anxiously waiting.

[Iscah]

My request is for them to stop listening to the forums for what they want in graphics and just make their artistic vision.

Well yes, and they told us at the beginning what that vision was.

"Overall appearance of player characters will be altered as little as possible", under the heading Primary Features and Goals.

[Loggos]

Thank you for this thread!

[Isurith]

My request is for them to stop listening to the forums for what they want in graphics and just make their artistic vision. You saw it with the stupid eye reflection change, the forums are full of people crying about -redacted- they know nothing about.

I mean it is good that they don't read or care about the NA forums but they need to have a bit of that energy for the JP one too.

Must be tiring being you.

[DPZ2]

You know, when I think of the term "overall appearance", I don't immediately think of a glint in the eye.

I think more about "Am I the same shape and size? Is the skin color ok? Are my eyes still green? Does the hair on my head look pretty much the same?"

"Do I still have fangs that show up when I laugh?" - Yeah, that one was a good call.

But "do I have a glint in the eye?" Nah.

[antylamon]

Wonder if, by that logic, disappearing bellybuttons on lalafells are part of the artistic vision to fully turn them into popotoes

Or artifacted Au Ra scales

Or nerfed moon miqo fangs

Or elezen rigging issues

All of these were brought up by the players at the forums, and it helped out a lot so.
The promised faithful-as-possible character adaptation in a character-based game is also a big deal, and overlaps with technical issues a lot as well.

(Also thank you for the thread!!)

[Tsumdere]

Dark circles still have not been removed from Duskwight males despite it being a universally disliked addition by every single poster in the JP forum.

Considering that it is not even a model change just a simple texture, their refusal to return their racial feature (no eyebags) is baffling.

[Liamont]

Extremely disappointed that the male elezen hasn't been changed at all ever since the new benchmark. And I logged in excited and hopeful that my feedback was heard, but alas, apparently was not taken into account at all.

Eyebrows are still different from the original.

Dawntrail:


EW (top), Benchmark (bottom) comparison:


Nothing was changed. I am honestly really disappointed and demoralized.