What will happen to dated items and dated material ?

[Mrfox0707]

I would really like to see dated items get destroyed along with the world.

I could see it being very confusing to new players as well.
I guess you could go the route of keeping the dated items but taking out all the synths to make them. But that would make dated items crazy rare and that would not be good.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

For those of you wondering what will happen to dated items in A Realm Reborn, Yoshi-P wanted us to let you all know that we will be making an announcement once the direction and specifics have been decided, based off all of your feedback of course.

Well if they make it all disappear then they need to compensate people for all the Dated pieces of gear they have. I have several dated items some I would like to hang onto. Reintegration would be the optimal choice especially since we won't be using the same game client. Just replace dated gear at character swap time with the normal gear.

[Platinumstorm]

keep dated items but remove the recipes.

[Ramesses]

I am definitely interested in how they will re-allocate these items... because like several players on this thread, I have a couple dated items that are of extremely high sentimental value to me. Actually, one of the very first crafted items I ever crafted for myself on FFXIV is my Dated Sheepskin Moccasins, which I still have to this very moment.

Heck, here's proof that I still rock those stomping boots cuz of how well they go with my "Desert Sky-Pirate" attire... (don't ask, it's a personal Atreides thing)...



So yeah, if you try to pry them from me, I WILL bite your kneecaps...(specialized skill I learnt from Tarutarus on FFXI)

[Platinumstorm]

I am definitely interested in how they will re-allocate these items... because like several players on this thread, I have a couple dated items that are of extremely high sentimental value to me. Actually, one of the very first crafted items I ever crafted for myself on FFXIV is my Dated Sheepskin Moccasins, which I still have to this very moment.

Heck, I still rock those stomping boots cuz of how well they go with my "Desert Sky-Pirate" attire... (don't ask, it's a personal Atreides thing)



So yeah, if the you try to pry them from me, I WILL bite your kneecaps...(specialized skill I learnt from Tarutarus on FFXI)

Yeah, I basically want them for the inevitable dressing room in FFXIV.

[Mihana]

I'm against doing away with the dated gear. Leave it in-game, remove the materials and recipes needed to make them. Some items as it stands don't even have current counterparts. A prime example is the sandals. We have sandals of varying colors which resemble the default footwear. There aren't any updated recipes for these items. There's several more examples too. Items like shoes (Sheepskin, Leather, Toadskin.) don't go past a certain level. What happened? We have no recipe replacements for these. Gowns barring the Ul'dahn Gown cannot be used until the 40's. Same goes for culottes. As for new players a simple fix is prevent these items from being sold in the wards/auction house/whatever they use. Items can be traded between players, put in up personal bazaars but cannot be listed for sale in other means. Removing the equipment can also hinder returning players the greatest.

What if someone quit before the new recipes came out? All their equipment is now dated and if they delete the dated equipment it will leave them with no gear. How is that fair? Some might have even been using gear not equippable by their class/level so if it's just replaced then it'll probably be unequipped and remain useless. Imagine this:

You stop playing the game before the newer recipes come out so your gear is dated. ARR arrives and you think "Hey, looks like the game has changed! I'll give it another try!" and reactivate your account. You go through, select your character and first thing you see is you're completely naked. All your equipment is gone. You have little gil and can't afford to go buy all new equipment right now and all your current equipment is either gone or been replaced with stuff you possibly cannot use or is generic. In some simple case if they delete the gear you're looking at returning characters likely being garbed in their racial clothing instead.

Now unless SE is going to carefully go through each and every player to give them updated equivalent gear to replace what they're losing it's a real downfall. Current game designs is what hinders them from adding in complete replacements for every piece of gear (I can't remember where but I know Yoshi-P commented on this regarding limitations.) but I don't see ARR having this problem being built upon a whole new engine. Overall, removing this equipment I feel would do more harm than any good really. If you look at some games (Everquest Online Adventures is an example.) there was some equipment that could be obtained for a certain period of time that later became obsolete or no longer dropped/was obtainable for whatever reason. These pieces of gear became depending on their stats rare and sought after.

Apart from looks and functionality just about every aspect of dated gear is surpassed by current, newer pieces of equipment. So FFXIV shouldn't have to suffer from something like this. I'm getting this post longer than I intended so I'm going to stop here.

tl;dr version:

1.) Keep the dated gear.
2.) Removing it affects returning players the most.
3.) Keeping it around has no effect on anyone.

[Grim_Lion]

Remove it, its confusing and waters down the already large enough list of craft-able gear for a game that technically is still in beta and hasnt released yet.

[Ramsey]

There are so many unique armor models that won't exist if they remove dated gear, I'm strongly against totally scrapping the gear. There's no harm in leaving it as long as it is non-AHable, anyone thinking it takes up valuable "space" is confused, the models are still going to be there, as many are used on NPCs (and many of them should be used in new gear, since right now low level gear options are lacking, and new players are not going to be as tolerant of this) so an item is reduced down to a few strings, in total the dated gear probably takes up a megabyte of memory, and that's a liberal estimate.

[Kraggy]

The easiest way would be to handle dated items like the Guild Marks; they disappear in ARR..

So, players like myself who've played since closed beta and have a 'Legacy' account, but haven't felt inclined to grind away at recent content to get 'current' gear, find our characters naked with no gear come ARR?

Good way to treat us. :|

[Chardrizard]

As long as it's not listable in AH/wards, they can stay. I dont care if they clutter others inventory space since it's none of my business.