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    Player
    Evergrey's Avatar
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
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    Last edited by Evergrey; 06-27-2024 at 06:38 PM.

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    channell's Avatar
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    Sancin Casanova
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    Ragnarok
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Ty, i was arguing about that, Have a great day!
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    Victor Spoils
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    Coeurl
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Feronar View Post
    My thoughts:
    • Why is the melee DPS role quest in Radz-at-Han while all the others are in Tuliyollal?
    Just got changed to Tuli.

    And apparently Tenacity was buffed again.

    Also also, AST Draws are at 20% MP so that was fixed after all.
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    Last edited by VictorSpoils; 06-27-2024 at 10:59 PM.

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    ryouma17's Avatar
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    Haven Belle
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    looking at blackmage changes i dont see what the big deal is seems fine to me why was everyone crying again?
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    looking at blackmage changes i dont see what the big deal is seems fine to me why was everyone crying again?
    1. You're forced to use 6 fire 4's to get flare star, there were instances of early despair being useful.
    2. You have to use ice spells during ice phase, where sometimes you would want to use a xenoglossy/thunder, get back to fire early, to finish off a boss where the three ice hearts aren't needed or if the boss is going up for a mech, so you cant target them.
    3. Removes non-standard play. I don't mind this is gone personally, but others enjoyed nonstandard blm.
    4. Thunder changes you can't apply two thunders easily to a double target situation.
    5. No more Ice paradox for movement.

    all these changes makes black mage more clunky and less flexible.

    people are going to be upset about job changes and leave feedback, you may not understand it but I think i will listen to the black mage players why they didn't like the changes (or liked them) on this one.
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    Last edited by Rithy255; 06-27-2024 at 07:32 PM.

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    Haven Belle
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    I think i will listen to the black mage players why they didn't like the changes (or liked them) on this one.
    iam a blackmage player and i like the new changes, ice actually has a use now other then to regen mana while you cast thunder
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    iam a blackmage player and i like the new changes, ice actually has a use now other then to regen mana while you cast thunder
    Then i hope you enjoy the changes, I'm not saying ur opinions are invalid but you describe peoples issues with the changes as "crying".

    I showed u why some players dislike it.
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Then i hope you enjoy the changes, I'm not saying ur opinions are invalid but you describe peoples issues with the changes as "crying".

    I showed u why some players dislike it.
    I wouldn't worry about them much. they're a constant contrarian who plays every job apparently and thinks every job change is good
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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    1. You're forced to use 6 fire 4's to get flare star, there were instances of early despair being useful.
    2. You have to use ice spells during ice phase, where sometimes you would want to use a xenoglossy/thunder, get back to fire early, to finish off a boss where the three ice hearts aren't needed or if the boss is going up for a mech, so you cant target them.
    3. Removes non-standard play. I don't mind this is gone personally, but others enjoyed nonstandard blm.
    4. Thunder changes you can't apply two thunders easily to a double target situation.
    5. No more Ice paradox for movement.

    all these changes makes black mage more clunky and less flexible.

    people are going to be upset about job changes and leave feedback, you may not understand it but I think i will listen to the black mage players why they didn't like the changes (or liked them) on this one.
    There's also the fact that, going by the posted info in the job guide, Picto has the highest caster dps with a side of very good utility (offensive and defensive). You might want SMN for the rez, but it's likely either one or the other.
    Years pass, and we keep coming back to caster balance disaster. 4.0, 4.4, 5.0, 5.2, 5.5, 6.0, 6.2... I'm really getting tired of them incrementally fixing the disaster that's the balance of this role to nuke it every few patches.
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    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Benedikta Harman
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    There's also the fact that, going by the posted info in the job guide, Picto has the highest caster dps with a side of very good utility (offensive and defensive). You might want SMN for the rez, but it's likely either one or the other.
    Years pass, and we keep coming back to caster balance disaster. 4.0, 4.4, 5.0, 5.2, 5.5, 6.0, 6.2... I'm really getting tired of them incrementally fixing the disaster that's the balance of this role to nuke it every few patches.
    No picto will have less adps than BLM, and probably also less rDPS (as he have defensive tools)
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