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    rawker's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graveyardprincess View Post
    No that wasnt a summoner pre endwalker that was just the devs being wow fanboys wanting a warlock in final fantasy. Endwalker gave us a real summoner we just need everyone of the primals we have and primal move sets now
    Only caveat is that this disregards the identity FF10/11/12/13 made to how summoning magic evolved in the series So saying that the current FFXIV SMN is a real summoner only proves my statement and is a downgrade.
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  2. 06-28-2024 11:58 AM

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    Manamaru's Avatar
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    Manamaru Singen
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    There really is no need to decouple SMN and SCH from ACN. SE needs to realize that the pets are necessary and that they should have worked on improving it, rather than ditching it. Haters be damned. The job started as such and should be retained.

    All pet-related actions and abilities should be fleshed out as ACN and just let SMN and SCH expand to it as each role see fit.
    I wish they would bring the pets back for SMN, but Creative Business Unit III has a very choppy vision that combines the one and done big flashy attack that some were clambering about mixed with a loose structure of FF16. I know I've said before, but we're likely going to see the return of pets in BST. And if they ever make an unlimited version, we'll probably see it in PPT where the weapon/secondary is the puppet that acts like a pet.

    But even though the dev team seem committed to having SMN go down this road, it's a very mismanaged and poorly built road of cheap asphalt and loaded promises that 4-5 years to look forward to maybe something.

    SMN starting dawntrail only has:
    Carbuncle, Ifrit, Garuda, Titan, Phoenix, Bahamut, Sunny D Bahamut

    Out of the following:
    ARR: Shiva, Leviathan, Good King Moggle Mog XII, Ramuh, Odin
    HW:
    Bismarck, Ravana, Knights of the Round, Alexander, Sephirot, Sophia, Zurvan

    STB:
    Susano, Tsukuyomi, Lakshmi, Shinryu

    SHB:
    The eden versions could be glamour options or new summons altogether

    EW:
    Anima, The magus sisters


    So much potential. So much that is lacking.
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    Last edited by Manamaru; 06-28-2024 at 11:37 AM.

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    Neoyoshi's Avatar
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    One of my FC mates would absolutely be on board, but i think she and her husband are playing DnD right now.

    So i'll show my support in her stead.

    #FXIVSUMMONERSTRIKE

    Make summons more interactable and cuter!! ...wait, that might not be in this manifesto.

    Make summons brew coffee for yo....alright that i am sure is not in the manifesto.

    Make summons do laundry for you because you are too short to reach the button.s...... she'd kill me if she saw this.
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    DiaDeem's Avatar
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    Vivian Rysto
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    It is fine to disagree but it is not fine to call people as idiots for not agreeing to you. Let this serve as a callout to your tone.

    Even if it was not directed to me, calling others idiots for not agreeing is not fine. We can continue to freely exchange thoughts without the need of calling people names. Sheesh.
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    Last edited by rawker; 06-28-2024 at 12:48 PM.

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