Size of the summon is displayed per user. Ex: I have them set to small so no matter what you have them set at they're smaller for me.


Personally I dont think any Job should be so easy that people actively pick it to learn mechanics. It doesnt need to be super hard either.I like Summoner more now than I ever have before, and I've played it since 2014. Sometimes miss Earth Pet tanking for soloing but meh.
Summoner just now seems to be the go-to DPS for people learning mechanics or who just don't feel like playing anything too challenging at a given moment. I see more summoners now than I ever did in the past.
Summoner needs to be more complicated in how the job works, it needs to build up to something, have something to track and reward players by doing it correctly. Currently it doesnt do any of those thing. I really love the concept of the rework, but how it is now is not objectively good and we shouldn't be saying it is in a fine state.
Just as being too hard is a problem, being to easy is ujusst as detrimental the game as a whole.




I like it as is. It's flashy and relaxing and the present iteration clearly has an audience. It feels more like a ritualist now and is no longer an incoherent hodge-podge of identities like in ShB. At the time I quit in ShB, the general feedback was it wasn't worth the effort for it's sub-par results.Personally I dont think any Job should be so easy that people actively pick it to learn mechanics. It doesnt need to be super hard either.
Summoner needs to be more complicated in how the job works, it needs to build up to something, have something to track and reward players by doing it correctly. Currently it doesnt do any of those thing. I really love the concept of the rework, but how it is now is not objectively good and we shouldn't be saying it is in a fine state.
Just as being too hard is a problem, being to easy is ujusst as detrimental the game as a whole.
I know every version of the jobs has it's fans - I just have a feeling this version is a success for them.
Caveat: While this is my primary DPS role and was typically the only class outside of WhM that I'd max out, I'm still a healer main. So my opinion is probably less important than full-time DPS summoners.
Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 06-28-2024 at 06:56 AM.



I find it personally funny that I nod at most of these "strike threads" and think "wait... they actually have a point too".You know what, of all these mock threads based on the healer one, this actually has some standing.
Completely and utterly gutted from what it used to be, egi glams turned out to just be carbuncles. I can completely sympathize with you getting screwed over and jerked around.
Esp SMN. Job was bled at the altar of "streamlining" and sold on empty promises and blatant lies.


Be a good little Summoner and play quietly with your picturebook.
tbh Summoners didnt get a new toy, they just got a recolor reskin old toy Honestly although this may be a mock its a mock I agree with They should have gave summoner alexander/animaark anything outside of another bahamut... and granted levi/ramuha and shiva
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