Privacy from third party sites

[aiqa]

This is how it should be. I know I went on a small rant yesterday about it (how opt-out isn't really an ideal thing to do in this design), but ideally the whole process should be an opt-in rather than an opt-out, just because there is a stigma in some spheres, and even in general where if you're opting-out of something that is public information (by design, albeit poor design), then it typically only leaves some people to speculate or assume you "Have something to hide".

At least, I personally think that the system being an opt-in by default would reduce this. I did mull on it yesterday a little and it isn't really great that opt-out is the design when there's API support for extracting data.

Since there isn't a good reasons for the data collection, opt-out is also against EU law. GPDR sets requirements for processing personal data. FFlogs and tomestone are most likely to small to ever get into problems with that, but it's still not a great look.

[Minali]

Since there isn't a good reasons for the data collection, opt-out is also against EU law. GPDR sets requirements for processing personal data. FFlogs and tomestone are most likely to small to ever get into problems with that, but it's still not a great look.

Indeed. I doubt any court would bother with a small fan project for an online game, at least not as long as irl home addresses or actual phone numbers etc. stay out of it at least. However, these laws exist for good reason and it wouldn't hurt if programmers would take a minute to consider these reasons, and if they really want to do a thing that would be straight up illegal if they'd be a huge media company and not just a small group of passionable volunteers. Not because of possible legal repercussions, just because maybe all these politicians and privacy advocates who created these laws in a lengthy process were on to something good.

[CaedemSanguis]

Since there isn't a good reasons for the data collection, opt-out is also against EU law. GPDR sets requirements for processing personal data. FFlogs and tomestone are most likely to small to ever get into problems with that, but it's still not a great look.

Your ingame char is not a «*personal data*»

[aiqa]

Your ingame char is not a «*personal data*»

To preempt a response like that is exactly why I provided the link to the definitions. If you read the definition it explicity includes "online identifier".

Well, it’s a usefull information in the debate ? Yet still, healers are boring in either casual/hard content

Moving goalposts a bit there? First you question why someone would ever look at logs outside of joining a pf/statics. And call everyone that thinks otherwise paranoid. Then there is an example that had nothing to do with joining a pf/static, and is clearly against FF terms of service, and then it's "useful in the debate" (which it isn't).

[Minali]

Your ingame char is not a «*personal data*»

Article 4 GDPR - Defintion:
(1) personal data’ means any information relating to an identified or identifiable natural person (‘data subject’); an identifiable natural person is one who can be identified, directly or indirectly, in particular by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or to one or more factors specific to the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, economic, cultural or social identity of that natural person;

(source: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-4-gdpr/ )

I'm not a lawyer but "online identifier" sounds about accurate.

[CaedemSanguis]

(source: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-4-gdpr/ )

I'm not a lawyer but "online identifier" sounds about accurate.

Natural person who can be id by an online identifier

Tell me how I id your natural person with in game char

[Minali]

Natural person who can be id by an online identifier

Tell me how I id your natural person with in game char

We have only one day until maintenance for a new expansion and I have the feeling you are one of the people just looking for more material for cherry picking and crapping on others anyway. I have better things to do with my time today, like learning BLU spells or doing a hunt train. You have plenty of urls to look it up, aside from, idk, google or duckduckgo, if you would really want to know, you can figure it out.

[CaedemSanguis]

We have only one day until maintenance for a new expansion and I have the feeling you are one of the people just looking for more material for cherry picking and crapping on others anyway. I have better things to do with my time today, like learning BLU spells or doing a hunt train. You have plenty of urls to look it up, aside from, idk, google or duckduckgo, if you would really want to know, you can figure it out.

Sure, have fun

[LianaThorne]

Natural person who can be id by an online identifier

Tell me how I id your natural person with in game char

Just off the top of my head:

- If your username on the forum matches any other usernames you have online, you can easily find someone's social media or other personal links via Google.
- If someone uses their character name on any other roleplaying websites that have links to social media, you can find their personal information easily.

Speaking as someone who had someone go out of their way to stalk me that way.

[CaedemSanguis]

Just off the top of my head:

- If your username on the forum matches any other usernames you have online, you can easily find someone's social media or other personal links via Google.
- If someone uses their character name on any other roleplaying websites that have links to social media, you can find their personal information easily.

Speaking as someone who had someone go out of their way to stalk me that way.

In that case you need to delete FF14 ?

You char name on FF14 is the same name on fflog