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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Yeah I've edited the post to make it clear this isn't an attack on parsers who use them to set up speedrunning groups, week one clearers or parsing groups. At the end of the day there are deep dungeon leaderboards, this is just a third party leaderboard people will use to try and do the best they can possibly do which is fair enough. Attacking people who are explicitly using logs to set up groups made with the context of logging in mind is not what im intending. Its the right for people who don't wish to be a part of this circle to opt-out.
    I think thats a valid way to play for people if they want to play like that, I do think having a rank in a leaderboard you're not actively uploading to is the problem.


    Also tried to add more to help make it clearer where you're meant to type on your profile.
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    Now that I think about it, I'm actually surprised that these sites haven't yet run afoul of regulations like GDPR. After all, they are collecting, storing, and publishing people's data without their consent.

    Though maybe it's just because they're so small-time that nobody has cared to raise the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Not really

    If i see someone hiding parses, I will immediately assume that they are very bad
    That just shows how much of an idiot you are. The problem with those sites is they don't really tell you all that much.

    You cannot for example look at a parse on fflogs and be like ok that players dragoon is i1000 and has an i950 weapon. And gear is a major component in damage, especially with the games power creep..

    So while you may look at a parse see a player is green and conclude that players terrible. Maybe they're not. Maybe they're playing the job properly but don't really chase the treadmill to much. It's tedious af having to rebuild every job every patch..

    It doesn't take much to drop you from lets say the 90th percentile right down to the 60s or 50s. Sometimes just 10-20 i-levels. And if your around 50% your basically "average"

    Better gear alone can take a player from green to purple in some cases but players just see green and automatically conclude bad player.

    This is also why many players pad the level requirements on PF groups so much because gear goes a very long way to cover for a bad player.

    I do very much agree with the op that these things should be opt in. Not opt out. And any player dated from players not opted in should be anonymized. And show as "unknown dragoon" or something.
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    Last edited by Dzian; 06-26-2024 at 08:11 PM.

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    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    That just shows how much of an idiot you are. The problem with those sites is they don't really tell you much..

    You cannot for example look at a parse and be like ok that players dragoon is i1000 and has an i950 weapon. And gear is a major component in damage.. especially with the games power creep..

    So while you look at a parse and conclude that players terrible. Maybe they're not. Maybe they're playing the job properly but don't really chase the treadmill to much. It's tedious af having to rebuild every job every patch..

    Also It doesn't take much to drop you from let's say 90th percentile right down to the 60s or 50s. Sometimes just 10-20 levels. And if your in the 50s your basically "average"

    Also why many players pad the level requirements on pf groups because gear goes along way to cover for a bad player.

    I do very much agree with the op that these things should be opt in. Not opt out. And any player dated from players not opted in should be anonymized. And show as "unknown dragoon" or something.
    Did I said that someone with 99 parses is a good player ? No
    Will I cancel an apply because he doesn't have logs, absolutely yes

    and no matter what you say, hardcore/semiHC static will always find a way to only recruit people that know how to press buttons and be consistent/fast learner
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    Last edited by CaedemSanguis; 06-26-2024 at 12:36 PM.

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    If someone wants to parse my shitty gameplay I couldn't care less. It's kinda cringe to parse anything that isn't savage/ultimate anyway.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    So can someone clarify, if I hide my logs and do not apply to statics (which I have no intention of doing), then no one will know I am hiding my logs because according to some comments here people do not look up logs unless they are recruiting?

    What's the problem with hiding logs if no one will notice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    What's the problem with hiding logs if no one will notice?
    There is no problem with anyone hiding their logs.

    Those who care and are reasonable people will simply ask you to unhide them, or else simply tell you that they'd like to see how you play and ask you to join some duties with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    There is no problem with anyone hiding their logs.

    Those who care and are reasonable people will simply ask you to unhide them, or else simply tell you that they'd like to see how you play and ask you to join some duties with them.
    Why would they try to see my logs if I'm not applying to their static?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Why would they try to see my logs if I'm not applying to their static?
    Because they're not, as I said, "reasonable"?
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