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  1. #1
    Player
    SoraLuna's Avatar
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    Character
    Supportive Potato
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 82

    Living Dead should negate all external healing as an additional effect

    Because well, I can't count the amount of healer (even after posting in the chat about it!) who especially do everything to not let me die so I can proc Walking Dead (and sometimes lets me die anyway after Living Dead runs out).

    Please make it happen Yoshi.
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  2. #2
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    Derio's Avatar
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    Character
    Derio Uzumaki
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Gotta love it when a WHM bene's you too soon and ends your invuln too early essentially killing you to the next attack
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  3. #3
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    WeakestZenosEnjoyer's Avatar
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    Character
    Scrappy Moonlord
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    The problem is adequately communicating Living Dead is active to the healer that isn't playing Dark Knight,

    cutting off heals doesn't address the healer burning resources, it just ensures a pop.
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  4. #4
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    The_User's Avatar
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    Character
    The Tank
    World
    Gungnir
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 62
    Posted this before...

    Quote Originally Posted by The_User View Post
    Living Dead adjustment
    Remove Walking Dead effect of Living Dead and make some adjustment
    Example:
    LV.50 Living Dead
    Enter Living Dead Status, Reduce HP to 1 and prevent an attack from lower your HP below 1.
    While you are in this status, Your hp can not be restore. Duration 9s.
    Additional Effect : Grant Undead Rebirth effect when the Living Dead effect expired.
    Undead Rebirth Efffect :
    Renders you impervious to most attacks and Restore HP equaling to the amount of healing received during Living Dead effect duration. Duration 1s.
    *The amount of hp restored can not exceed the current maximum HP*
    Now Living Dead won't have a massive amount of heal attached to it nor it would required this amount of healing resource to cleanse and other player especially the healer could kept heal the DRK without interrupting and prevent the action from triggering the effect. No healing wasted, no malfunction of the Living Dead and no longer unnecessary fight among DRK and healer [that sometime lead to a slandering that lead to someone get a ban] in dungeon ever.
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  5. #5
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    ThorneDynasty's Avatar
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    Character
    Gisela Thorne
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WeakestZenosEnjoyer View Post
    The problem is adequately communicating Living Dead is active to the healer that isn't playing Dark Knight,

    cutting off heals doesn't address the healer burning resources, it just ensures a pop.
    And overhealing during invuln should be punished with the loss of resources, I wouldn't call this a problem. Having LD pop successfully overweighs anything the healer can output in usefulness anyway.

    Like, even if a WHM uses Benediction right after LD pops, it's still entirely wasted in most situations regardless.
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    Last edited by ThorneDynasty; 06-24-2024 at 05:25 PM.

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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Character
    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I've ranted about this for awhile.

    They've essentially "fixed" living dead but didn't idiotproof it when you get healers who make you not have an invuln. Yes there are healers who let it expire even after begging.
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  7. #7
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    Rithris Amaya
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I literally had a scholar spam physick on me in a dungeon when i was in living dead, then once it ran out they just went to dpsing lol and poof goes the dark knight.

    I'd like the idea that any heal on you during LD activation (until you're in walking dead) will be 0.
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    Last edited by Rithy255; 06-24-2024 at 02:28 PM.

  8. #8
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    Character
    Nero Tsukimi
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I don't agree with this to a degree but most darknight does use a macro about it but sometime the darknight can use it to early have seen it happen they were full HP and activated it but they didn't reach 1 before the timer so I just saw the tank die like huh well crap. but I do agree on maybe heal stack on the darknight instead of making zero tho
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  9. #9
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    If I understand correctly, you'd want they make Living Dead keep its warrior mode self heals but immune to external healing, and keeping Walking Dead with no warrior mode self heals and require external healing?
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  10. #10
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    Character
    The Tank
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    Gungnir
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 62
    Just remove the heal requirement and hp drain. Make Drk store any healing received during living dead duration instead.
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