House availability on Dynamis

[Jojoya]

Copying this from the Dynamis Data Center Discord.

Housing Availability Estimates for each world in this bidding period (entry period ends June 25, 2024 8:00 AM PDT in 3 days)

Cuchulainn: 4177~ personal
Golem: 4257~ personal
Halicarnassus: 817~ personal, 9~ FC (3~ ARR city)
Kraken: 3986~ personal
Maduin: 1127~ personal, 4~ FC (1~ ARR city)
Marilith: 1056~ personal, 13~ FC (4~ ARR city)
Rafflesia: 4162~ personal
Seraph: 123~ personal, 8 FC (3 ARR city)

FC houses not counted on the 4 newest worlds since the soonest any FCs will be eligible to enter the lottery is mid-July (i.e. for now it's all still available).

Keep in mind that each of the new worlds started with 450 large, 1050 medium and 3000 small personal houses (4500 total). That means there are plenty of larges and mediums still available on all 4 worlds if that's what you want to get. The super prime plots like Mist 5/35 and LB 11/41 are likely sold out but you pretty much have your pick otherwise.

[ShadowyZero]

now i get that you're trying to lead people to where there is housing available but as i've stated previously before the world visit system is just horrendous in its current state and needs to be revised and revisited if its to be a viable system in junction with people continuing to play with friends and so does the queuing system for it also need to be revised.
and i get it, its tiring dealing with all these complaints, fights, and promised solutions with no end in sight but i personally believe that if they just designed a completely separate housing system specifically for single player owners that allows for full customization of size this would eliminate the desire for the "neighborhood PVP" we all hate dealing with. not only would this probably free up a bunch of those neighborhoods in the ward system but it would satisfy a bigger number of players that just want to have their own nice place to decorate an show off to their friends or invite guildmates too etc. without needing to sacrifice convenience of where they play with their friends and guild

[ShadowyZero]

but this is good information to share with newer players who might be jumping into FFXIV and not sure what server they should choose if they want to experience this niche but much loved and desired feature.

[Impia]

now i get that you're trying to lead people to where there is housing available but as i've stated previously before the world visit system is just horrendous in its current state and needs to be revised and revisited if its to be a viable system in junction with people continuing to play with friends and so does the queuing system for it also need to be revised.
and i get it, its tiring dealing with all these complaints, fights, and promised solutions with no end in sight but i personally believe that if they just designed a completely separate housing system specifically for single player owners that allows for full customization of size this would eliminate the desire for the "neighborhood PVP" we all hate dealing with. not only would this probably free up a bunch of those neighborhoods in the ward system but it would satisfy a bigger number of players that just want to have their own nice place to decorate an show off to their friends or invite guildmates too etc. without needing to sacrifice convenience of where they play with their friends and guild

I think what Jojoya is doing is just making it very clear where the houses are, new player or not. This is the housing forum, everyone here who doesn't have a house wants one. Many of us have advocated continuously for Dynamis' housing as a solution for those who have expressed their frustration with the lack of opportunity to obtain their desired plot. This is a rare opportunity. If you really do want your plot badly enough, relying on DC travel is a small price to pay.

[LaylaTsarra]

DC travel takes no time. It's not hard, it's fast and one can visit with friends as long as they like. The only negatives really are not having access to mail and retainers (especially if you're an active seller who needs to undercut). Cross world link shells are thing, one does not need to be a FC member to communicate.

Granted it will be a mess at the start of DT but that's a plus for a DC like Dynamis. It will get people queuing for duties instead of going elsewhere and the growth of the DC should be large with new players making characters there.

You want housing it's there but it won't be forever as the DC fills up.

[ShadowyZero]

This is the housing forum, everyone here who doesn't have a house wants one. Many of us have advocated continuously for Dynamis' housing as a solution for those who have expressed their frustration with the lack of opportunity to obtain their desired plot. This is a rare opportunity. If you really do want your plot badly enough, relying on DC travel is a small price to pay.

i already understand that there is housing available on other or newly formed worlds/datacenters but some people have been playing for months and years an not gotten a house they've wanted for so long but in the meantime have already established a home on their current worlds with groups and friends we shouldn't be settling for less or inconveniences when we all pitch in with subscriptions every month or every 3-6 months for some we're not just pencil pushers or npc's dawdling mindlessly but we're consumers and paying customers if we have concerns that's why they need to be addressed don't force your fellow player to settle on anything or to just give up on better ideas or solutions that's a quitter attitude its okay to be frustrated because this situation is frustrating especially so when its purposely a divisive thing instead of being something that ALL should have cause we all pay the same fees (some go an extra mile ofc with the mogstation goods and other merch but thats over generalizing an whole other can of worms which shouldn't matter in this context anyways)
this thing of telling other people where they should go and how they should play is the exact same thing as that old additive of "you can lead a horse to water, but that doesn't mean they'll drink it." in otherwords its an exercise in futility an you'll never convince people to see world visiting as this novel or gold standard idea it just won't happen especially if there is a better alternative that could be implemented.

[ShadowyZero]

DC travel takes no time. It's not hard, it's fast and one can visit with friends as long as they like. The only negatives really are not having access to mail and retainers (especially if you're an active seller who needs to undercut). Cross world link shells are thing, one does not need to be a FC member to communicate.

Taken from the direct game site itself here are some restrictions which hinder players rather than help them enjoy the game with this "visit system" i am going to prove right now its not all its cracked up to be an that we seriously need revisions or just need a new entire housing system be implemented and retire the ward system.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...de/worldvisit/
You cannot travel to the Firmament while outside your Home World.
Bonuses will not be applied for visiting new or preferred Worlds.
Legendary and unspoiled gathering nodes are inaccessible.
Ranked matches cannot be joined.
Deep Dungeon results will not be saved to leaderboards.
Lord of Verminion tournaments cannot be entered.
Triple Triad tournaments cannot be entered.
Cactpot tickets cannot be purchased.
Eternal Bonding quests are unavailable.
Others' ceremonies cannot be attended.
Invitations cannot be distributed.
Company credits cannot be earned.
The effects of company actions will not be applied.
Free company chat cannot be used.

[ShadowyZero]

Granted it will be a mess at the start of DT but that's a plus for a DC like Dynamis. It will get people queuing for duties instead of going elsewhere and the growth of the DC should be large with new players making characters there..

the world vist/data center hoping was only made with the idea of limiting server congestion because stormblood proved how bad it can get with overpopulation and even then it wasn't enough they still had to add in seperate instanced servers to handle the overwhelming numbers and now they've purchased more server space to host even more players in anticipation that Dawntrail is going to implode the servers which as you say will fast fill up these new worlds over the course of a week
but this is not going to solve the housing issues once all those plots fill up then what? do we just tell everyone to go back home??? do we tell them "sorry champ you didn't catch the rush" well that actually sounds familiar doesn't it? because it is we've said that in the past too and look where we are today so clearly adding more servers won't fix anything at all and you'll be back here again seeing the same complaints all over again.

[Khryseis_Astra]

but this is not going to solve the housing issues once all those plots fill up then what? do we just tell everyone to go back home??? do we tell them "sorry champ you didn't catch the rush" well that actually sounds familiar doesn't it? because it is we've said that in the past too and look where we are today so clearly adding more servers won't fix anything at all and you'll be back here again seeing the same complaints all over again.

I agree in the sense that the current system will never have enough plots for every player, let alone every player that wants them. I don’t think we need to “retire” the wards, but I do think we need an instanced system created in addition to them. There needs to be something that addresses scarcity, both of a plot in general, and of size.

But I think the point of the thread is, this is what is available now. We can campaign for improvements here, since this is where the devs tell us to put our feedback. However, as far as we know, they have no housing plans for Dawntrail beyond the item limit increase and the “mirage” which remains to be seen exactly what that will do for interiors. Which means about a couple years, give or take, before we can really expect to see any further developments in housing. If you really want a house, and don’t want to wait literally years, this is your best shot. Judging by what’s still available after the first round, not a lot of people have made the move.

Now is housing just the “carrot on the stick” to get people to spread out and fill Dynamis? Will they look at more housing ideas and improvements after they consider it filled enough? It might take awhile if that’s the criteria they’re looking at, because only 2 of Dynamis’ original 4 worlds are really “full” at this point. When they’re all more or less full, and we come back and say “now what?” I guess then we’ll find out for sure if the scarcity is on purpose!

[Impia]

i already understand that there is housing available on other or newly formed worlds/datacenters but some people have been playing for months and years an not gotten a house they've wanted for so long but in the meantime have already established a home on their current worlds with groups and friends we shouldn't be settling for less or inconveniences when we all pitch in with subscriptions every month or every 3-6 months for some we're not just pencil pushers or npc's dawdling mindlessly but we're consumers and paying customers if we have concerns that's why they need to be addressed don't force your fellow player to settle on anything or to just give up on better ideas or solutions that's a quitter attitude its okay to be frustrated because this situation is frustrating especially so when its purposely a divisive thing instead of being something that ALL should have cause we all pay the same fees (some go an extra mile ofc with the mogstation goods and other merch but thats over generalizing an whole other can of worms which shouldn't matter in this context anyways)
this thing of telling other people where they should go and how they should play is the exact same thing as that old additive of "you can lead a horse to water, but that doesn't mean they'll drink it." in otherwords its an exercise in futility an you'll never convince people to see world visiting as this novel or gold standard idea it just won't happen especially if there is a better alternative that could be implemented.

How does any of that warrant this adverse response to someone just telling people where the houses are and how to get them?


I'm sorry but all the suggestions and wishes and fairy dust in the world won't change our immediate reality. People who want a house any time soon need to work within the framework we have *now* You can argue as much as you want, but if you want it badly enough then that's the sacrifice you have to make. Are you really going to advocate for inaction in the hopes that maybe, someday, something might change to make it easier to get a house without moving? Because even if it does, you could be on the hook for another few years and it may just never happen.



It's not like those friends are just going to disappear if you transfer, I see my friends from Ultros all the time and literally nothing has changed.