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  1. #41
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    It cost too much effort and dev time to incorporate Shiva, Leviathan and Ramuh into the rotation so they went with Solar Bahamut and are asking players to wait until 8.0 for more meaningful changes to where they have enough time to work on meaningful job progression.

    Are people upset? Yes

    Will they get over it since nothing can be done for 2 years? Also yes.
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  2. #42
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    It cost too much effort and dev time to incorporate Shiva, Leviathan and Ramuh into the rotation so they went with Solar Bahamut and are asking players to wait until 8.0 for more meaningful changes to where they have enough time to work on meaningful job progression.
    A extra action for each Lego piece will be the 8.0 meaningful change lol.
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  3. #43
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    RulerOfPotaoes's Avatar
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    Drafus Thicc'rod
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 100
    People saying SMN's simplicity is an issue really need a reality check.

    The simplicity of the job is only an issue to a very small but loud minority. It was one of EWs most used and popular jobs in casual and hard content.

    The job needs more variety while keeping its simplicity.
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  4. #44
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Popiular and simple doesn't always mean good design. Because for the most part is that it is the path of least resistance. Saying that it's great design is just copium
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  5. #45
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Popiular and simple doesn't always mean good design. Because for the most part is that it is the path of least resistance. Saying that it's great design is just copium
    It is like saying why don't we just make more casual content, because casual content is more popular. Lets skip all ultimate and savage content and focus purely on casual content, because more players play that content and it is more popular. There should be challenges for the game for reason.
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  6. #46
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RulerOfPotaoes View Post
    People saying SMN's simplicity is an issue really need a reality check.

    The simplicity of the job is only an issue to a very small but loud minority. It was one of EWs most used and popular jobs in casual and hard content.

    The job needs more variety while keeping its simplicity.
    That's argumentum ad populum, and you're kinda ignoring the point everybody has been making so far...
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    Last edited by Valence; 06-27-2024 at 06:15 PM.

  7. #47
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    Mileinalaeinlaa Lieea
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Hopefully some part of Solar Bahamut will feel different.
    Watched a video and didn't seem that way and that would indeed be a joke.
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  8. #48
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milea View Post
    Hopefully some part of Solar Bahamut will feel different.
    Watched a video and didn't seem that way and that would indeed be a joke.
    I think only interesting part of that new Bahamut is that, you have 30 second window to plan when you wanna use that aoe healing to support your healers.
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  9. #49
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    Caius Megaflare
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    I think only interesting part of that new Bahamut is that, you have 30 second window to plan when you wanna use that aoe healing to support your healers.
    Honestly, there's absolutely nothing interesting about Solar Bahamut; it's just a boring reskin of Bahamut with an additional 800 potency total. And the heal that can only be used for 30 seconds and not when we desire before the return of another Solar Bahamut is just as stupid in terms of design. Anyway, who really wanted a healing Bahamut seriously?

    I really feel like the person making changes to the Summoner is just a lazy fan of boring and outdated designs.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by remiff View Post
    Honestly, there's absolutely nothing interesting about Solar Bahamut; it's just a boring reskin of Bahamut with an additional 800 potency total. And the heal that can only be used for 30 seconds and not when we desire before the return of another Solar Bahamut is just as stupid in terms of design. Anyway, who really wanted a healing Bahamut seriously?

    I really feel like the person making changes to the Summoner is just a lazy fan of boring and outdated designs.
    It is still better than Phoenix healing where you have zero flexibility, but yeah.
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