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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Bard healer will forever live in my heart (but probably not ffxiv lol)
    to be honest it was a bit weird when i started the game and playing as archer to 30 then switch to bard and still DPS.. I wasn't a fan so I change to arcanist(for scholar)

    I like the idea of bard as a healer and enchanter, I wish next expansion square enix focus more into reworking some old stuff improving the classes
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    No, I do like the current bard using martially inclined archer feats, and I don't understand what's the problem. I even find the bow-harps weapons kind of unique and interesting creatively speaking.
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    No, I do like the current bard using martially inclined archer feats, and I don't understand what's the problem. I even find the bow-harps weapons kind of unique and interesting creatively speaking.
    Its not a problem talk, its just a friendly conversation about if the "Bard" Fantasy would be suit a different execution.
    There are no demands or anything.
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    No, I do like the current bard using martially inclined archer feats, and I don't understand what's the problem. I even find the bow-harps weapons kind of unique and interesting creatively speaking.
    The problem is that the idea of Bards using music in a magical way is what people are used to in the FF franchise... And the mix between a martial archer and a bard doesn't sit well with some folks, myself included.

    It's a matter of personal taste, honestly. I also think the BRD fantasy would be better realized as a DoM than a DoW, and the archer could benefit much more evolving into something like Ranger, adding archery to nature survival skills.
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    Nathaniel Lenox
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    I do think instruments and songs could fit as a healer theme.
    You have something called "Sound Healing".
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeastria View Post
    I do think instruments and songs could fit as a healer theme.
    You have something called "Sound Healing".
    LOTRO actually has this as a class, named Minstrel. It fits more with their "Morale instead of health," system, but it was also an extremely fun fantasy back in the day.

    If at all possible, I'd definitely like it if Archer were forked, with modern Bard going over to ranger and Bard bard turning into support. However, the devs need to fix their encounter design philosophy to even allow for this. Healer and tank design is a joke, and the joke is so bad that even DPS are starting to get wrapped up in the awful encounter design problems. Though if they do this, they need to also make Bard bard no longer use bows. Summoners using books has caused annoyances to say the least, and it would be nice to fork the classes in such a way as to make the 2 classes use different weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taranok View Post
    LOTRO actually has this as a class, named Minstrel. It fits more with their "Morale instead of health," system, but it was also an extremely fun fantasy back in the day.

    If at all possible, I'd definitely like it if Archer were forked, with modern Bard going over to ranger and Bard bard turning into support. However, the devs need to fix their encounter design philosophy to even allow for this. Healer and tank design is a joke, and the joke is so bad that even DPS are starting to get wrapped up in the awful encounter design problems. Though if they do this, they need to also make Bard bard no longer use bows. Summoners using books has caused annoyances to say the least, and it would be nice to fork the classes in such a way as to make the 2 classes use different weapons.
    Let them use the same weapon like summoner and scholar but with different stats.
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    Rithris Amaya
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    I feel as if ff14 healers kind of bland where they all have to be "mages"

    Personally I would have loved a sort of ninja like healer or a holy knight healer (green paladin lol).

    Not against the "mage" look (i play a lot of black mage lol) but all 4 healers somewhat play into that, leaves little room for more interesting designs.
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    I think part of that is that the only "mundane" healer in FF is the Chemist AKA Doctor, Salvemaker or Item Master. Otherwise it just White Magic used for healing or Summons.
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    Also the Devs ignore already that the Stories of the Class and the CLass that exist are so far distance from each other that these stories can become confusing.
    Astrologian would be a good example for that as they speak about the different signs and effects or when the Scholar unlock quest told me about the different abilities of fairies.
    Summoner faces similar problems....they realy would need to adjust them at some point.
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