question about summoning in lore

[Anonymoose]

With regard to multiverse shenanigans, I've always been a (very grumpy) proponent of the idea that authorities from both games should opt into the connection before a two-way connection is considered hard canon. For example, theoretically it should be possible for Dissidia and FFIII to both be canon to Dissidia without Dissidia being canon to FFIII. Aliens vs. Predator doesn't necessary make itself canon to Alien or Predator, or Predator to Alien, or Alien to Predator. (Even though Predator 2 arguably opened the door.)

I've never been terribly fond of the idea that one creative team can say to another, "your world includes my world now" regardless of their consent. And if there are crossovers or meta-references but the creative teams just say, "Eh, don't worry about it; it's just for fun," (e.g. Yokai Watch) then perhaps we shouldn't think too hard about the implications, anyway. Granted, my preference for consent-before-connection is awkward with Final Fantasy; there are brand-level authorities who can override game-level authorities if they want to.

And I'm only grumpy about it because - as an archivist who likes taking things apart and making sense of them - I've grown increasingly jaded watching the quality and integrity of the fandom interpretations of various world-settings permanently eroded due to enthusiasm for fun nonsense leading to the enforcement of the implications of said fun nonsense on the hard canon forever after. Hells, FFXIV sometimes makes tongue-in-cheek meta-references to the passage of Earth time and there are often efforts to impose those on the hard-canon timeline, held back only by other content in the "more authoritative" canon continuing to adhere to the blank-check-bubble.

Anyway, this rant vaguely replying to the discussion about the question has little to do with the question, does it...

But like Cleretic said, isekai featuring a character from Earth is very much one of those aforementioned situations. It'll never be canon to Earth, so it's already a one-way connection favoring the creative authority (you), and anyone who doesn't like it isn't going to be convinced by whatever you come up with on the FFXIV side. Imho, you don't even need to find an FFXIV-based excuse; you can just blame something from the Earth side if you get stuck. A one-way connection can't contradict you!

But if you do want an FFXIV-side excuse, I'd just go with the rift. Whatever it is, it seems to include a limitless, chaotic sea of unmanifest potential timelines and events. Who - who hasn't already walked away from the idea - can possibly find a citation to contradict the ultimate hand-wave? And if any of the people who want to contract you also want Dissidia imposed on FFXIV, you already have them halfway backed into a logical corner, lol.

Didn't Lightning end up in France? Isn't that how she started working for Louis Vuitton? (/s)

[Cleretic]

Didn't Lightning end up in France? Isn't that how she started working for Louis Vuitton? (/s)

Yeah, that's what I meant when I said 'XIII-3 notwithstanding'. I'm not particularly sure how that connects to Dissidia's angle on the multiverse, which is the one XIV takes to be true while also keeping a reasonable distance from it.

Like, does that mean that XIII's universe eventually transforms into the one with Earth in it? That it's connected to Earth through a link that's out of the 'network' that connects the other FF universes?

[Zero-ELEC]

Didn't Lightning end up in France? Isn't that how she started working for Louis Vuitton? (/s)

Technically not France, just a "France-like" place in the new world she created.

[kaynide]

With regard to multiverse shenanigans, I've always been a (very grumpy) proponent of the idea that authorities from both games should opt into the connection before a two-way connection is considered hard canon.

Hard agree, otherwise, we have to accept that Donald Duck is both a created character by the Disney Company, and also an actual person who helps save the multi..verse..? Because Kingdom Hearts is connected to Final Fantasy, and FF is connected to Nier.

I really wish Nier had been given the FF 13/15/etc “just for fun” treatment with a single trial kinda bit..cause whoooo-boy.