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    Would be great to fight the primals as roaming NM's, but they should leave it as open world fight, for example with ifrit, as soon as you engage him a big circled area would form with nails that comes from the ground and fire, so other players cant join but may see how you take him down, outsiders nearby the party that claimed it, are ousted from the area, idk with some kind of animation like them running away or making an emote the party members to him that everything is under control and the outsider walking away, with this only a player or alliance can take down the primal without any outsider disturbing them.

    The best of it is that they can leave the same fight stage setup that we have now or make it even harder, to solve elements like trees they should put the spawn area free of objects.

    That i think is far better than instance, in Sky you were locked away on an island but everyone else outside the party could see the fight from the other side, and it was great trying to see what were they using, real time strategies and of course the recognition of the comunity.
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    Siorai Aduaidh
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    As I understand it, there will be roaming versions of all Primals, but these are just used for GC summoning battles.

    Primals will still be fought as they are now, although the entrance to their battlefields will be in different spots.

    (again, this is speculation based on bits of info I've seen)
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    I prefer the primals to be a roaming NM that once claimed your group will be taken to their instance realm like how Yoshi-P described. If it wasn't instance there is chances that other people will try to sabotage your fight, and large group of by standers can lag you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    I prefer the primals to be a roaming NM that once claimed your group will be taken to their instance realm like how Yoshi-P described. If it wasn't instance there is chances that other people will try to sabotage your fight, and large group of by standers can lag you.
    If SE makes the claim system different there's no room for sabotage to be honest, since the whole purpose of the new server and client is to negate poor performance. Though the enmity generation in this game is kinda screwy so who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    If SE makes the claim system different there's no room for sabotage to be honest, since the whole purpose of the new server and client is to negate poor performance. Though the enmity generation in this game is kinda screwy so who knows.
    I agree. its 2012, the technology is out there to have decent servers and better optimized engines to combat lag. it should not be a problem.
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    Her Majesty
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    Here is what we know from an interview from Japan Expo:

    [Someone's voice] : You said that the primal will only be summonable by Free Companies. Will they be roaming all over the map when they reappear? Will they always respawn at the same place, or will they respawn anywhere?

    Yoshida : Anywhere, you can find it anywhere.
    [Someone's voice] : It's better that way, else, a huge Free Company will always be keeping the primal.

    Yoshida : It will not happen. You need to be lucky to meet the primal. You need the luck the primal first, and then you need the power to defeat it. As long as you have those two, it'll be yours.

    [Someone's voice] : And then, will the battle happen on the world map, or will it be instanced?

    Yoshida : It will be instanced.
    Not much, but its something!
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    Erika Indira
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    Yep. They'll be set up as roaming NMs which takes you into an instance (which defeats the purpose of making them roaming...)
    like the old school JRPG's random battles
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    In 2.0 there will only be one of each primal per world. So one Ifrit, maybe one Shiva maybe one Ramuh, per world.
    http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2012/06...cks-and-rocks/

    I think one has a definite meaning to it, not "One but there are still the other instanced versions that you can always do."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawiichan View Post
    http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2012/06...cks-and-rocks/

    I think one has a definite meaning to it, not "One but there are still the other instanced versions that you can always do."
    this was refering to how many free companies can own it at a time, in other words, if one has ifrit already, no one else can get him etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    this was refering to how many free companies can own it at a time, in other words, if one has ifrit already, no one else can get him etc etc
    You say that, but he distinctly says that there will be one of each primal per world. No matter what way you see it, it's blatantly stated there.

    Then easy mode also wouldn't exist anymore because that is directly connected to the 7th umbral era and that was said to be gone in 2.0. I don't know what you're seeing, but it's more conflicting to keep these primal battles than it is to not keep them. I think moogle is probably the best chance since I don't think he's considered as a major primal, though that in itself is just speculation.
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