Improving Dawntrail WHM

[Silver-Strider]

Frankly it's hard to find the middleground that is "better than today's Cure I" AND "worse than today's Cure II" for the button.

For once I entertained the idea of having Cure I from lv82 and beyond getting a trait that turns the button into an instant cast, MP free, and cuts lily timer by 3s per cast. But even that is going to be ignored entirely during uptimes.

The only way I could ever see a middle ground for Cure 1 and Cure 2 is if they attached a DPS component to the skill. If they added something like Fluid Aura as an oGCD follow up after Cure 1, even if it doesn't match Stone/Glare in terms of potency, it would still be less of a DPS loss than just firing off a raw Cure 2.

[Doragan]

If it had Aero III, and maybe a dia and/or regen proc, I believe it would be great.
Maybe have Holy be on 1.5 rather than the full 2.5 would be nice to avoid clipping with Assize, but frankly? I can't think about much else.

A triplecast equivalent would be neat too I guess.

- Decrease Presence of Mind’s CD down from 120secs to 60secs for more Glare IV’s.

- Do not lock Glare IV behind just Presence of Mind. Let WHM use this action more. It can be done in a few ways.

- Enhance Holy into an AoE DoT ability after Presence of Mind is used. This makes Holy, a Final Fantasy staple, usable in a single target rotation for WHM as it’s new “finisher.”

[Sylvain]

The only way I could ever see a middle ground for Cure 1 and Cure 2 is if they attached a DPS component to the skill. If they added something like Fluid Aura as an oGCD follow up after Cure 1, even if it doesn't match Stone/Glare in terms of potency, it would still be less of a DPS loss than just firing off a raw Cure 2.

I mean they could simple make Cure1 potency go from 400 to 700 when you learn Cure2
and make Cure2 a 30s and give it a 1500 potency.

This way both become relevant. You cannot say "Never use Cure1" because Cure2 while better has a 30s. CureIII could see the same treatment to differenciate it a bit more than Medica2 by giving it a 1min CD

[Carighan]

And for a really simple fix for Cure 2 and Cure 1: Provide reasons to spam-cast GCD heals, including single-target.

(We'd also find out why we still have Cure 1 and Benefic 1, namely we'd run out of mana otherwise)

[Supersnow845]

And for a really simple fix for Cure 2 and Cure 1: Provide reasons to spam-cast GCD heals, including single-target.

(We'd also find out why we still have Cure 1 and Benefic 1, namely we'd run out of mana otherwise)

The hilarious thing is that the god awful SB lily system didn’t actually have a flawed design, its problem was that the game doesn’t justify using the system how the devs obviously envisioned it

If you were casting cure 1/2 like you were in coils then the SB lily system would have actually been decently engaging

[Silver-Strider]

I mean they could simple make Cure1 potency go from 400 to 700 when you learn Cure2
and make Cure2 a 30s and give it a 1500 potency.

This way both become relevant. You cannot say "Never use Cure1" because Cure2 while better has a 30s. CureIII could see the same treatment to differenciate it a bit more than Medica2 by giving it a 1min CD

This is just the Lily System.