Quote Originally Posted by Norack View Post
This is a MMORPG after WoW dang't, dont you ppl understand that MMORPGs are suppose to be EASY, if I can't install this game and within the first 10 minutes of playing have every single job at max lv. and every single item in the game this is fail game. In short im suppose to be able to play this game and within the first 10 minutes be god.
I don't think there's a single post in this thread asking for the quest to be easier. Most of the complains about the quest come from people who can't get past seals + double meld, and not because they aren't "hardcore" just (I'm assuming) because they haven't been lucky. I only know a few who got past the meld, and they were lucky (1-2 tries). Sure there's also the "buy it pre-melded" way but if you say that's too expensive then people get angry and tell you to make it yourself and it's a funny cycle all around.

Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post

Just my 2 cents
And that's why we have the RNG on most content, because someone who plays a lot (in theory) should have better chances, but at the same time someone who doesn't play that much still has the same opportunity at getting loot/etc in the same run as someone who has been doing it all week long.

As for the relics, once you get past the seals + double meld most of the relic quest have some form of progression-based content (even the speedruns since you have to get better each time until you get beat it)