Relic Weapons-Broken Promises

[Yucie]

The point of relics is not for everyone to get them. Sure if it means only the no lifes and rich people get them, then deal with it. Your not hardcore enough to look past the gil to make it, then you shouldnt get the strongest weapon in the game. Tired of people bitching about how the whole server cant get a relic. Some should be more expensive and harder to get, because some are just flat out better then others. THIS IS THE STRONGEST WEAPON IN THE GAME, AND YOUR COMPLAINING THAT YOU HAVENT GOTTEN IT IN LESS THEN 60 DAYS! Shut up

But.. everyone should have a chance to get artifact weapons. :Q

[MicahZerrshia]

But.. everyone should have a chance to get artifact weapons. :Q

Yes and No.

There should be a way for someone who cannot log in 5 nights a week for hours on end and therefore cannot get a ls that does hardcore raids to get a decent weapon that is not going to get them excluded from a large portion of the game.

We are seeing this in xi right now. DD(empy only) <can I have it>

Some ppl want to play the game and just cannot find a ls that will take them due to the fact they cannot run 5 nights a week or they are the very last person to get their weapon. They also cannot get into any content that you can do without a ls (again using xi as example...legion, voidwatch, nyzul isle, assault, limbus, einherjar, list goes on) cause they just don't have the time to spend on it and they dont want to take a year or two to farm it up when they can so they can enjoy other content that will be mostly abandoned and just in time to start creating the next ultimate weapon, two years later rinse and repeat.

They should have an option that doesnt require "hardcore" dedication. If you can only play a few hours a day a couple days a week you should have an option so you can get into other content (once we get it anyway). There should be difficulty in obtaining a weapons if you want to put time into into it, but the way it is right now in both xi and xiv leaves alot of ppl in the dust and causes alot of ppl to just give up. The player base could be alot bigger if they gave us more options.

Then you have the ppl who can spend alot of time on a weapon and they exclude other players from joining in due to lack of the top of the top gear and they tell them to f* off or to stop their QQ

Just because someone cannot dedicate 40 hrs a week to the game doesnt mean they should be excluded and thats what happens due to the community attitudes as a whole. SE should do their part to remedy this somehow and tell the elitests to f* off for a change. They arent paying any more than the part timers so its not like their money is more valuable and as a whole they could probably get more subscriptions if they would cater to all and not just the full time gamers.

Just my 2 cents

[Byakko]

Yes and No.

There should be a way for someone who cannot log in 5 nights a week for hours on end and therefore cannot get a ls that does hardcore raids to get a decent weapon that is not going to get them excluded from a large portion of the game.

We are seeing this in xi right now. DD(empy only) <can I have it>

Some ppl want to play the game and just cannot find a ls that will take them due to the fact they cannot run 5 nights a week or they are the very last person to get their weapon. They also cannot get into any content that you can do without a ls (again using xi as example...legion, voidwatch, nyzul isle, assault, limbus, einherjar, list goes on) cause they just don't have the time to spend on it and they dont want to take a year or two to farm it up when they can so they can enjoy other content that will be mostly abandoned and just in time to start creating the next ultimate weapon, two years later rinse and repeat.

They should have an option that doesnt require "hardcore" dedication. If you can only play a few hours a day a couple days a week you should have an option so you can get into other content (once we get it anyway). There should be difficulty in obtaining a weapons if you want to put time into into it, but the way it is right now in both xi and xiv leaves alot of ppl in the dust and causes alot of ppl to just give up. The player base could be alot bigger if they gave us more options.

Then you have the ppl who can spend alot of time on a weapon and they exclude other players from joining in due to lack of the top of the top gear and they tell them to f* off or to stop their QQ

Just because someone cannot dedicate 40 hrs a week to the game doesnt mean they should be excluded and thats what happens due to the community attitudes as a whole. SE should do their part to remedy this somehow and tell the elitests to f* off for a change. They arent paying any more than the part timers so its not like their money is more valuable and as a whole they could probably get more subscriptions if they would cater to all and not just the full time gamers.

Just my 2 cents

No one here is being excluded from the game. In the first few years of XI king abjurations/relics/etc were a luxury. Did the fact that some people couldn't get king abjurations hurt their gameplay in any way? No. You could easily obtain high end gear from dynamis, sky, and later the other expansion zones. There was a nice balance, and the same could be done here.

Also, this game is already heavily geared towards casual players, whats the problem with there being a few exclusive pieces of equipment to reward more active/organized groups?