Quote Originally Posted by Crimzon View Post
The only reason you aren't doing relic is you can't be bothered to take a few hours out of your time to 17min SR AV&CC a couple times? Really?
No, I don't even bother with speed runs. I don't do them anymore with the dungeons, and I won't do them again with the Relics. When SE can actually make content that doesn't require you to stack the sh*t out of one class/job, I'll do it.

I'm not in an endgame linkshell aside from my social one, and a lot of stuff I do is pick up groups. The majority of endgame linkshells don't even let people into them anymore, and I'm not going to join one just to complete content... I never see a shout for 17 min speed run and that's where A LOT of people get sh*tted on for relics. It's pretty much a stopping point for everyone.

EDIT: Pretty much what dbrewer225 said. But no, SE requires you do the 17 min speed run or you have a 1/100 drop rate on the item you need.... Um, no.