alot of yall make good points. the content should be a challenge but like alot of people said, this relic weapons quest has truly seperated the community to the point that if you are just now starting the quest, you are pretty much screwed till 2.0 Not many or all ls are not recruiting due to the fact that you are behind. I have 3 double melded weapons mnk war and whm ready to go and defeated the stronghold nm but the 17min AV/CC runs jst killed all my hopes and dreams of getting relic. I do occasioanly can get in to 25 mins speed runs but the drop rate for the items need for the relic should have been better instead of RNG like darklight. This game lack progression and i can see how that can truly disturb a players motivation. But hey ill just keep going and hopefully a ls will start recruiting people who really wanna complete relics.