Relic Weapons-Broken Promises

[Hyrist]

Let's avoid the direct insults, Chardrizard.

I MUCH rather obtain my special weapon through a series of tough NM fights, remember ZNM in FFXI? Getting stuff from that was actually impressive...because not only did you need to farm (the pictures) you had to defeat really tough bosses in very tough areas (lots of aggro, add, etc) when I got my Enkidu boots when they first came out for my DNC on my first try, I got up from my PC and did a dance..lmao.

Please keep in mind the depth of the other difficulties involved with this.

You need to beat both Ifrit Extreme and Garuda Hard in that order.
You need to be able to speed-run multiple instance raids under 17 minutes.

Those alone will be plenty of challenge and dangerous work for more than just your average player.

[Zante]

if you have the gil and dedication to a job that you love why not go for the best gear and weapons for that job? if you love a job enough to make a relic for it money should not even matter relics are not for everyone in the game to own if you dont want to craft/spiritbond/farm (Work) etc for the money to make a relic and want one for cheap and easy then just double or triple meld some gear and be happy with what you have relics are not for you.

[Hyrist]

True! So I guess in turn it makes others rich..sort of. >_<



I understand and see your point, but when you see someone with a relic..instead of thinking "Wow they must have some mad skills" instead think "Wow..they got...lucky.."

Really impressive.

That's not a matter of luck, that's a matter of dedication. Just because there's a 20% success rate dosent mean 'Oh wow, he got lucky.' The guy may have blown millions on the item, having to gruel his way to farm the gil or get the meteria and crafting supplies for the multiple attempts.

That's not luck. That's perseverance.

I would be very concerned about the value of these relics if I did not see complaints on these boards about the difficulty achieving them. They're supposed to be something hard and special. Sure, there's luck elements involved, but you will always overcome luck elements in this game with enough perseverance. You MAY get lucky and get by quickly, but typically that will not be the case.

And this isn't even touching Ifrit Extreme.

Make no mistake, anyone who has a fully realized Relic has EARNED it.

[Chardrizard]

I understand and see your point, but when you see someone with a relic..instead of thinking "Wow they must have some mad skills" instead think "Wow..they got...lucky.."

Really impressive.

Its also impressive how clueless you are about this quest altogether if you think someone with relic is getting lucky. I dont remember double meld is the only part if this quest.

To OP,
Every step in this quest has RNG, but every step also has a way to bypass the RNG, its up to you whether you want to deal with the RNG or not, or whether you have what it takes to bypass the RNG.

[Gold_Lion]

Infact most of you posters have nothing constructive to reply with. Its like the quest is perfect in every way-I did add some suggestions that would give players progress for their effort.

[Nero]

Infact most of you posters have nothing constructive to reply with. Its like the quest is perfect in every way-I did add some suggestions that would give players progress for their effort.

The Topic itself is a lot, but not constructive. Just that you dont have it done, does not imply that it is unbalanced. There are people allready which are on 4th or 5th Relic. The whole Progress can be done in 2 days, if you are dedicated enough. Hamlet itself is a Timesink, but you only have to do it once.

Want it faster than 2 days? I call that BS.

Not talking about the Double-Meld again.. got chewed over and over allready on this Forum.

EDIT:

Btw.. you only need 1 DoW/DoM at 50 to farm gil. You should know how to sell Stuff with your Retainer, no? Want people explain you how to farm and sell? You can get the amount you need, in a couple days. Check wards for prices, go farm it, sell it. Easy enough. A friend of me did it with Mining, some other guy did it with farming skins and hides.. etc. There are many options.

[yoshikwalla]

Relic's supposed to be that challenging cup at the end of the race track - the golden cup available to the few who managed to go through the trials to get there. Until then, there are plenty of alternatives. Relics are supposed to be relics, not some sword you can get in a day. Deal with it.

I'm dealing with it and I'm fine with it. There are plenty of milestones that I'm working on to pass the time until I'm rich and powerful enough to get a relic. Just yesterday I finally got Second Storm Lieutenant, and now I'm working on my second lv50, MDR/WAR. And after that, I'm working on Darklight. All of this while I complete the upcoming 7th Umbral Era, and getting whatever promotions pop up.

Relic's aren't the be-all end-all of everything. They're just a nice reward for getting veeeerrryyy far in the game.

[Yucie]

Relic's supposed to be that challenging cup at the end of the race track - the golden cup available to the few who managed to go through the trials to get there. Until then, there are plenty of alternatives. Relics are supposed to be relics, not some sword you can get in a day. Deal with it.

I'm dealing with it and I'm fine with it. There are plenty of milestones that I'm working on to pass the time until I'm rich and powerful enough to get a relic. Just yesterday I finally got Second Storm Lieutenant, and now I'm working on my second lv50, MDR/WAR. And after that, I'm working on Darklight. All of this while I complete the upcoming 7th Umbral Era, and getting whatever promotions pop up.

Relic's aren't the be-all end-all of everything. They're just a nice reward for getting veeeerrryyy far in the game.

artifact weapons~

[yoshikwalla]

artifact weapons~

Ahhh crap. This is what I get for going on the forums right after I wake up.

[Elexia]

Ahhh crap. This is what I get for going on the forums right after I wake up.

SE themselves call it Relic weapons or the quest would also be called 'Artifact Weapons Reborn', not Relic Weapon.