Thread: Portraits in 7.0 and Beyond

Originally Posted by Raikai

I just want one. bloody. thing.

Give us the option to use the Adventurer Plate's portrait. Simple as that... I just want a 'general' one that isn't the boring mugshot against the aetherial bg.

Would that work? I suppose? That portrait doesn't break if you change jobs/attires/etc.

That is my genuine confusion too. Why can't it work like the Adventurer Plate portrait where you set one and keep it. Why can't it simply pull from the Adventurer Plate?

Is it because they're afraid of, say, a Tank wearing Healer Items/weapon on their adventurer plate? From the same like that Yoshi-P Claims it would be "weird" to see a black mage in plate?

That is the only reason I can think of that would stop us from using it. But then at least let us set a portrait for each job that won't break every 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by Somnolence

Pretty weird solution they have created. Not sure why item information even has to be associated with portrait, since posing our existing character should be enough, just because adventurer plate can be of another job? So why not link portraits to glamour plates then.

Extremely weird, because all they'd have to have done is add two or four bytes to each item for a reference ID to the thing you've glammed to. And if they're worried about expanding item data, well, there are certainly fields that could be removed to no ill effect(crafter name) to recover some space.

Honestly they are so broken. It cant be that hard to remedy. Even just link portraits to the adventure plate pic or something

Aye just simplify the process, an option to set it as is regardless if/when any gear change happens unless we change it.

Originally Posted by CinaedhVik

Why isn't this a thing?

Unfortunately a certain segment of the population couldn't resist making portraits of their catgirl blowing the camera man, their male highlander jerking off, etc. Restrictions were then put in place to counter this. Any change in gear can potentially turn a non-lewd portrait into a lewd one, and thus the restrictions must be re-verified each time a change is made.

Basically it's another example of the community doing this:



Having to re-save the portraits constantly annoys me too but a few bad apples spoil the bunch as they say. Hopefully the devs find a way to make it less obnoxious in the future.

Originally Posted by Kanehon

That is my genuine confusion too. Why can't it work like the Adventurer Plate portrait where you set one and keep it. Why can't it simply pull from the Adventurer Plate?

Is it because they're afraid of, say, a Tank wearing Healer Items/weapon on their adventurer plate? From the same like that Yoshi-P Claims it would be "weird" to see a black mage in plate?

That is the only reason I can think of that would stop us from using it. But then at least let us set a portrait for each job that won't break every 5 minutes.

It's probably a technical limitation. When you're in a duty they already have to send your character's description and glams to everyone. If they use the adventurer plate portrait then they need to also send the description of what you're wearing in that.
It may also be a matter of how much memory budget they allocate to each character in duties. Loading twice as many player character glam models and textures might risk to go over the memory budget depending on the duty.

Originally Posted by Taliriah

It's probably a technical limitation. When you're in a duty they already have to send your character's description and glams to everyone. If they use the adventurer plate portrait then they need to also send the description of what you're wearing in that.
It may also be a matter of how much memory budget they allocate to each character in duties. Loading twice as many player character glam models and textures might risk to go over the memory budget depending on the duty.

You can already check adventurer plates in an instance. The data is either already there, or fetched on-demand.

Originally Posted by Arzalis

Not entirely sure this is true. Glamour didn't exist until 2.2 and they did a major overhaul during Stormblood. At this point, any technical debt is simply because they don't care to resolve it; not some leftover from rushed development of 2.0 (which was a decade ago, by the way.) Frankly, any 2.0 related arguments fall flat for me after the game has been out for as long as it has, but especially for features that weren't even in 2.0.

To be clear, I am not defending CBU3 when I talk about technical debt. The choice to not address that technical debt is of course theirs; they need own that just as much as they own any of the game's successes.

But it's clear the game has plenty of it. There are just so many places in the game where a developer sees the way something is implemented and has to scratch their head and wonder why it was done in such an unintuitive or overly complicated way. And operating in good faith, I have to assume the reason is "technical debt" rather than "incompetence". Especially because often these systems are so needlessly complex that it would be more work to implement them in this sub-par way than it would be to implement them in a more ideal way; Occam's Razor suggests that technical debt is the reason.

Originally Posted by Taliriah

It's probably a technical limitation. When you're in a duty they already have to send your character's description and glams to everyone. If they use the adventurer plate portrait then they need to also send the description of what you're wearing in that.
It may also be a matter of how much memory budget they allocate to each character in duties. Loading twice as many player character glam models and textures might risk to go over the memory budget depending on the duty.

It’s something along these lines from what I understand. There was an interview during the media tour where Yoshi P was asked about this, portraits aren’t just like snapsnots, they’re actually character models. Still, would be nice if they could find a work around for it.

I hate how my portraits always randomly decide to not work.