No class identity and completely over simplified

[Kathryn]

I personally dont care if some streamer who pretty much no lifes the game did a dungeon with no healer the game I play I still see healers failing to heal raid wide damage encounters causing raid wipes or even party wipes, just because a few people are bored of their role doesnt mean every single healer is a pro and their difficulty should be ramped up to appease the few.

More damage skills and more variety in what abilities used would be nice, but the alot of healers already playing cannot do this simple class as it is.

Example, I was just in World of Darkness and one raid had 2 scholars in it, they didnt bother healing at all and their raid kept wiping, only the raid I was healing and the other raid were always the last ones standing.

And the healerstrike thread just wants to be an echochamber instead of sharing ideas and thoughts so I thought it's best to let them have at it and ignore the thread completely.

[Eorzean_username]

Example, I was just in World of Darkness and one raid had 2 scholars in it, they didnt bother healing at all and their raid kept wiping, only the raid I was healing and the other raid were always the last ones standing.

Wow, good point — it's almost like no matter how simple and easy you try to devolve a Role into, there will still be people who don't "get it" and don't try.

So why, then, did Healers have to be mechanically-devolved?

Doing so obviously didn't fix anything, because people were both wiping in World of Darkness, and also clearing World of Darkness, in... ARR... HW... and SB.

It's almost as if people are people and sometimes they'll fail at things, whether they have 1 DOT or 3 DOTs, and whether they need to use 3 GCD Heals or 3 OGCD Heals.

Perhaps, then, we should stop trying to design the game as if we're toddler-proofing our household, because you're not going to "fail-proof" the system, and it's inherently okay if imperfect play and lack of understanding causes a wipe.

[dtv20]

I personally dont care if some streamer who pretty much no lifes the game did a dungeon with no healer the game I play I still see healers failing to heal raid wide damage encounters causing raid wipes or even party wipes, just because a few people are bored of their role doesnt mean every single healer is a pro and their difficulty should be ramped up to appease the few.

More damage skills and more variety in what abilities used would be nice, but the alot of healers already playing cannot do this simple class as it is.

Example, I was just in World of Darkness and one raid had 2 scholars in it, they didnt bother healing at all and their raid kept wiping, only the raid I was healing and the other raid were always the last ones standing.

And the healerstrike thread just wants to be an echochamber instead of sharing ideas and thoughts so I thought it's best to let them have at it and ignore the thread completely.

And I blame Yoshi P for this. Fromsoftware has taught its playerbase how to play hard games without holding their hands. Yoshi P has taught healers to not worry or even care unless you're doing Save or Ultimate content.
And I've also seen crap tanks that spam their cd's and DPS with less dmg than healers. Kind of weird to base an entire class off of terrible players, when each class have terrible players.