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  1. #101
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    BarretOblivion's Avatar
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    Ultimately it's a self-healing issue. Tanks should only be able to delay their deaths to a boss, not outheal an entire boss worth of damage.

    It's just really stupid how every other role is "If you make a mistake and eat 2 AoEs at a time, you're dead" but tank is "I can eat as many AoEs as I want and I have an invuln and a healer to bail me out"

    Tank is basically easy mode on mechanics, Healer is easy mode on rotation, DPS is normal difficulty on both.
    This screams salty for some reason. You are complaining about people eating aoes in a dungeon. Oh gawd the humanity that casual content doesn't kill the tank immediately with aoes when they use their nuts in a boss fight because SE balances it around the casual players who don't even use cool downs.
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  2. #102
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    Pepper Oni
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    They just wanted to reinforce the fact that Warrior is the main character's job for Dawntrail. They even give you a sample experience of the simplistic gameplay and auto-heals, in case you weren't convinced by that prospect alone.
    What's hillarious is that even War's damage ceiling is now higher than Drk's.
    Job balance of all time. They should unironically just delete all the tanks except Warrior at this point and give you a weapon skin of the other jobs.
    There is *zero* reason to play anything else. War just holds a monopoly on everything now.
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    Last edited by GoatOfWar; 07-04-2024 at 03:12 AM.

  3. #103
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    BarretOblivion's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    What's hillarious is that even War's damage ceiling is now higher than Drk's.
    Job balance of all time. They should unironically just delete all the tanks except Warrior at this point and give you a weapon skin of the other jobs.
    There is *zero* reason to play anything else. War just holds a monopoly on everything now.
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    No. GNB is the king of dps right now on tanks. I have no idea about PLD but I was able to clear the test dummy for the ex trial easily on GNB with a mistake at basically fresh lvl 100 with no food only old pot and a piece of the job gear missing. On my War with the same stipulations (minus the missing job gear piece being on the war) it was unable to clear the check with a perfect rotation by like 4%. Drk they just screwed up on its management generation rate and I expect they will add mana to something like carve and spit to compensate for the man's difference.
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  4. #104
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    whiskeybravo's Avatar
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    The other tanks exist to inflate the ego of War players.
    Nah. Warrior's sole purpose is to make sure the tank forums stay pumped with DRK complaint/rework threads.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarretOblivion View Post
    ....
    No. GNB is the king of dps right now on tanks. I have no idea about PLD but I was able to clear the test dummy for the ex trial easily on GNB with a mistake at basically fresh lvl 100 with no food only old pot and a piece of the job gear missing. On my War with the same stipulations (minus the missing job gear piece being on the war) it was unable to clear the check with a perfect rotation by like 4%. Drk they just screwed up on its management generation rate and I expect they will add mana to something like carve and spit to compensate for the man's difference.
    The dps difference between Gnb and War is double digits.
    They do the same. Check the trials.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    The dps difference between Gnb and War is double digits.
    They do the same. Check the trials.
    LMAO. Check again on FFLOGs buddy. The three tanks of DRK, PLD, AND WAR are all within 100-200 dps of each other while GNB is almost 500 dps or even higher with raid buffs at the top end. Which means the potential of the 3 are similar, while GNB is the king (for a third expansion in arow).
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  7. #107
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Summoner Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by BarretOblivion View Post
    This screams salty for some reason. You are complaining about people eating aoes in a dungeon. Oh gawd the humanity that casual content doesn't kill the tank immediately with aoes when they use their nuts in a boss fight because SE balances it around the casual players who don't even use cool downs.
    He not complaining about casual player dying cause they eat an AoE. He right in a sense, in most content, healer and dps can't fail mechanic much whitout dying after 1 or 2 mistake while tank can casually challenge themselves to survive with 4+ vulne stack when they are bored. That gap in defence is so bad in fact that it hard to change anything about overall difficulty for healer in content. The game would benefit from more ''rapid fire'' mechanic that quickly stack vulne.
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  8. #108
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    Elizasylen's Avatar
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    Senba Torii
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 100
    variety and fun. i enjoy switching them up and playing all of them.
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  9. #109
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    Kasari Silvermoon
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    While WAR has ridiculous sustain, there are very few situations where anyone would actually need that much sustain. I prefer GNB because I find it more enjoyable to play. Usually when I die as a tank it's because nothing is gonna keep me up with my six vuln stacks (them DT dungeon bosses be crazy) no matter which tank I play.
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  10. #110
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    Zeeningg Yaboi
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    Famfrit
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    Yeah but I am a warrior lover.. but bro warrior got it all no tank can do what this monster can do to boss + mobs

    I know some pple like that have shield or a giga chad greatsword.. but gameplay wise no tank can even compete with warrior
    so then WTF are you doing? like "yeahhhh i love my strong job so much im gonna bitch and moan and meme about it so it gets nerfed!" literal 2 brain cell man....
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