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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    The tanks all do the same damage, and all the fights are full melee uptime.
    They do the same damage now, we remember how it was when that wasn't the case though~.

    Most fights these days are better melee uptime, but some maps are still large enough for that uptime to be needed, not mentioning older fights and content which people still do because roulettes exist.

    Plus the question I was replying to was "tell me one thing that other tank can do and WAR cannot ", I decided to name one thing from three different tanks just to prove more of a point. So stay mad, but I aint wrong there~.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    One word: Simplicity
    yeah I agree, war is easier than gnb/drk
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    yeah I agree, war is easier than gnb/drk
    And it's not a bad thing either. Summoner is played a ton for a reason over BLM. If some people wanna go ham, GNB exists. If people want slow, WAR is there. If tanks wanna worry about healing more than the rest, they play DRK.
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  4. #74
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    Isn't it a bit late to pivot war from being the cause to a victim/scapegoat now when the entire healers forum are already up in arms?
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_User View Post
    Isn't it a bit late to pivot war from being the cause to a victim/scapegoat now when the entire healers forum are already up in arms?
    It's kinda been that way for many months though, it's just the curse of WAR I'd say heh.

    Curious how the strike will go, maybe well have an extra second on the queue times kekw.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikoRemi View Post
    It's kinda been that way for many months though, it's just the curse of WAR I'd say heh.

    Curious how the strike will go, maybe well have an extra second on the queue times kekw.
    I don't think that square enix know how much bad the Tank + Healer design currently is.. I can as a warrior heal faster than sage in every fight with half combo
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    I don't think that square enix know how much bad the Tank + Healer design currently is.. I can as a warrior heal faster than sage in every fight with half combo
    Sure would be a shame if you got a doom that required esuna and there's no doom though~. And even dungeons have been using that more often lately...hmmmmmmmmm.

    The healing is handy in lower level content, in higher level content, I appreciate my healers since damage actually becomes quite heavy to contend with. If it isn't the usual dooms then ok, try UWU without healer. Would be a shame if you didn't have Healer LB3 for the doom mechanic.

    If healers want more fixes regardless, that's something for Healer Roles, not Tank Roles.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikoRemi View Post
    Sure would be a shame if you got a doom that required esuna and there's no doom though~. And even dungeons have been using that more often lately...hmmmmmmmmm.

    The healing is handy in lower level content, in higher level content, I appreciate my healers since damage actually becomes quite heavy to contend with. If it isn't the usual dooms then ok, try UWU without healer. Would be a shame if you didn't have Healer LB3 for the doom mechanic.

    If healers want more fixes regardless, that's something for Healer Roles, not Tank Roles.
    I agree healer role should move toward support role give utility and dmg instead of healing.. why we need healer if we have clemency or Bloodwhetting
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    I agree healer role should move toward support role give utility and dmg instead of healing.. why we need healer if we have clemency or Bloodwhetting
    Party wide Zeromus doom is something I can't cleanse with my little Shake it Off and Bloodwhetting to save my life, and Clemency is single target + DPS loss. And there's multiple mechanics in higher level content that can be very difficult if not impossible.

    What I meant by Healer Roles anyway was the forum channel. As far as tanks are concerned, they're getting better nowadays and I'm curious to see the full on content and not just bits and pieces with potencies that aren't finalized yet. I know either way I'll still play WAR because it's fun~.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    What is the point of playing tank other than warrior?
    To have fun - some people have more fun playing other tanks.
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