SAM casting

[Equitable_Remedy]

call me a contrarian if you like, but i think the SAM cast are very reminiscent of anime and old spaghetti western style samurai movies, the old face off prior to the draw that ends the threat, its the ideal of taking the time to focus mind body and soul in to one honed swing.

That's not contrarian. That's just describing what it actually is.

[AsiTsurugi]

Before Yoshida does an asspull again about "People complaining were more than ones who weren't" with regards to this, casting is the last thing that gives uniqueness to SAM and lends to its job fantasy. Any bottom of the barrel creature that cannot handle that can go play literally any other class, or "take a break", or "play something else".

[Duskane]

nah i feel that is too key to samurai in many ways
like if they were instant cast it wouldn't feel as impactful or powerful in both game play and feel

[ShadowyZero]

call me a contrarian if you like, but i think the SAM cast are very reminiscent of anime and old spaghetti western style samurai movies, the old face off prior to the draw that ends the threat, its the ideal of taking the time to focus mind body and soul in to one honed swing.

thats the headcanon most go with i am sure but its 100% not that in japan they practice sword techniques and swings some of which is visibly shown in the way samurai executes certain skills or abilities but also they believe in their study of the blade that its an extension of the self and how you treat it and hone it will decided how great of swordsman you become and so on and so fourth but thats in "practice" and performed on "Stage" if you were to go watch actual kendo or japanese sword competitions you'd see that literally none of their practice techniques are held in place for any longer than a split second or less cause whats he gunna do? let his oponent smack the ever living daily light out of him while he's trying to act all cool like on tv??? absolutely not lmao that would be extremely embarrassing to watch and would shame his school and his mentor both
And the same can be said for when they had times of war in ancient japan civilization you really think a samurai who also mind you was covered in armor from head to toe which weighed tons is gunna let himself get wailed on an possibly behead or worse? just to active some kind of imaginary special ki finisher? lmao get outta here

[ShadowyZero]

And to those telling others to go play another job why would i be here asking if i wanted to play something else? this is literally the only dps with a single sword holstered to their waist nothing else compares to that aesthetic reaper is a scythe wielder yet swings around like its outta fashion when in reality no one can do such a feet with such a heavy blade ditto to dragoon their lances/spears probably weigh a whole lot as their purpose is intended to gouge or pierce not slash or cut
and monk is just martial arts which in itself should be faster than someone carry a heavy lance or scythe around let alone carry two short swords like ninja or now rogue 2.0(viper) but yet its not how convenient.
and while we speak of convenience isn't it funny how ninja which is also a blade practitioner has not only near instant casts when all depictions of such always show them weaving chi(ki) with their hands in order to "cast" ninjutsu
seriously i'm convinced ya'll are just haters of samurai and don't want it to outpace or outperform your own "preferences"

[nguyentri11]

Impractical fantasy moves is what I'm here for so I'd rather it stay.

[GoatOfWar]

And to those telling others to go play another job why would i be here asking if i wanted to play something else?

Because the developers have a track record of ruining and homogenising jobs when players complain about the things that make jobs different.
I want to use a greatsword carrying job but you can only play Dark knight. But Dark knight has had it's job identity transplanted into Warrior multiple times, because of repeated complaints by War players that Dark knight did something better than Warrior. Without accounting for their own advantages, to where it is now just a downgrade and everyone wants drk reworked (again). Not only that, they're further homogenising and simplifying the tanks in Dawntrail.
I don't want this to happen on other roles as well. If you don't like having a cast time, maybe try another melee job. We don't need to make everything the same.
There are people who like having the cast times, do we just remove the cast times to make you happy and just tell them to quit?

And no, Sam is actually one of the most popular, and powerful jobs still.
People aren't hating. They are disagreeing with you.

[ThorneDynasty]

thats the headcanon most go with i am sure but its 100% not that in japan they practice sword techniques and swings some of which is visibly shown in the way samurai executes certain skills or abilities but also they believe in their study of the blade that its an extension of the self and how you treat it and hone it will decided how great of swordsman you become and so on and so fourth but thats in "practice" and performed on "Stage" if you were to go watch actual kendo or japanese sword competitions you'd see that literally none of their practice techniques are held in place for any longer than a split second or less cause whats he gunna do? let his oponent smack the ever living daily light out of him while he's trying to act all cool like on tv??? absolutely not lmao that would be extremely embarrassing to watch and would shame his school and his mentor both
And the same can be said for when they had times of war in ancient japan civilization you really think a samurai who also mind you was covered in armor from head to toe which weighed tons is gunna let himself get wailed on an possibly behead or worse? just to active some kind of imaginary special ki finisher? lmao get outta here

...Like literally holy European knights and knights lugging around 30 pound greatswords? What kind of realistic fantasy game do you thing you are playing my dude?

[ShadowyZero]

People aren't hating. They are disagreeing with you.

your bias is showing clearly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯i dont hear your complaints about the other melee here at all you're just lashing out on samurai because i stated an unpopular opinion about melee jobs which are meant to be dishing the damage non stop should have no cast timers whatsoever. we have literal other jobs which are magic based where casting is apart of its identity or in other word evoking/enchantment. SO WHY DONT YOU go play one of them if you love casting mechanics so much? hm? funny how that works when it reversed on you huh

[ShadowyZero]

...Like literally holy European knights and knights lugging around 30 pound greatswords? What kind of realistic fantasy game do you thing you are playing my dude?

i am playing a final fantasy don't be silly not an anime rpg :P if i wanted to play anime i'd go play wuthering waves, genshin, or blue protocol.
but we are here in a mystical realm an lets not be coy most samurai mains/players dont view this samurai as ideal or even peak samurai what they really want is a blade with a thousand slashes/cuts, with the super amazing bullet/lazer/projectile deflecting skills, and the master of the blade that can cut things in two instantly with a single stroke as then sheath their katana at the end.