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    SAM casting

    dear battle/combat developer(s),

    please consider removing casting to Samurai, all other melee jobs including some tanks have zero casting to them an they operate just fine. i get that the initial idea was to add some mysticism to it and demonstrate its more than just mindlessly swinging a blade around but there are other more efficient ways to achieve the same effect without hindering players who really enjoy this job/discipline and not making them feel like they are being pushed into playing a certain playstyle.

    if this simply isn't feasible or possible then please at the very least reconsider their cast times an shorten them to half a second or to a very brief few miliseconds if need be it could be a trait thats unlocked that reduces all cast times etc.
    thank you very much in advanced
    if they are going to insist we keep casting then i demand they add a counter/deflect/parry effect as compensation for us having to stand perfectly still in one spot because thats exactly what a SAMURAI would do if being charged at or being attacked is to deflect/parry then counter strike when an opening is visible.
    the other Melee have the unfair advantage of being able to move freely and unbinded by a cast bar when a large AoE is about to hit at close range and they loose nothing from dashing out of the way compared to the samurai which looses its cast and then has to reset.
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    Last edited by ShadowyZero; 06-17-2024 at 08:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowyZero View Post
    dear battle/combat developer(s),

    please consider removing casting to Samurai, all other melee jobs including some tanks have zero casting to them an they operate just fine. i get that the initial idea was to add some mysticism to it and demonstrate its more than just mindlessly swinging a blade around but there are other more efficient ways to achieve the same effect without hindering players who really enjoy this job/discipline and not making them feel like they are being pushed into playing a certain playstyle.

    if this simply isn't feasible or possible then please at the very least reconsider their cast times an shorten them to half a second or to a very brief few miliseconds if need be it could be a trait thats unlocked that reduces all cast times etc.
    thank you very much in advanced
    Slide cast it i guess. Sam is not some overly complicated job.
    If you don't like it, play another job. Removing any sort of gameplay friction just makes every job the same. *Points at tanks*
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    Samurai isn't the only one. Reaper also has a cast time on it's heavy hitter, Communio. In my experience the cast time for 1 ability really isn't that big of a deal. You just need to have some situational awareness when you use it. Typically, it's fast enough that you just slide cast out of an attack anyway.
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    Make every melee job the same please.

    I like the surgical/tactical vibe of iajutsu. It wouldn't feel like iajutsu without it. I even like it in pvp, where it's actually a point of contention between players. Gives the job a specific feel when playing around it.
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    I was the price for power I would be asking it that worth keep if it’s weaker then viper if not there isn’t much to complain about
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    Honestly I think Machinist should have a sniper rifle attack with a cast time where they're lining up a headshot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrinus View Post
    Honestly I think Machinist should have a sniper rifle attack with a cast time where they're lining up a headshot.
    I’m not gonna shut that idea down with my opinion on it but my dude this is about Sam
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    call me a contrarian if you like, but i think the SAM cast are very reminiscent of anime and old spaghetti western style samurai movies, the old face off prior to the draw that ends the threat, its the ideal of taking the time to focus mind body and soul in to one honed swing.

    more than anything tho, the casts are the price you gotta pay if you want big numbers to go burrrrrrrrrr... if you want to play SAM without casts DRG/MNK is always an option, and honestly both are great jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus View Post
    call me a contrarian if you like, but i think the SAM cast are very reminiscent of anime and old spaghetti western style samurai movies, the old face off prior to the draw that ends the threat, its the ideal of taking the time to focus mind body and soul in to one honed swing.
    That's not contrarian. That's just describing what it actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus View Post
    call me a contrarian if you like, but i think the SAM cast are very reminiscent of anime and old spaghetti western style samurai movies, the old face off prior to the draw that ends the threat, its the ideal of taking the time to focus mind body and soul in to one honed swing.
    thats the headcanon most go with i am sure but its 100% not that in japan they practice sword techniques and swings some of which is visibly shown in the way samurai executes certain skills or abilities but also they believe in their study of the blade that its an extension of the self and how you treat it and hone it will decided how great of swordsman you become and so on and so fourth but thats in "practice" and performed on "Stage" if you were to go watch actual kendo or japanese sword competitions you'd see that literally none of their practice techniques are held in place for any longer than a split second or less cause whats he gunna do? let his oponent smack the ever living daily light out of him while he's trying to act all cool like on tv??? absolutely not lmao that would be extremely embarrassing to watch and would shame his school and his mentor both
    And the same can be said for when they had times of war in ancient japan civilization you really think a samurai who also mind you was covered in armor from head to toe which weighed tons is gunna let himself get wailed on an possibly behead or worse? just to active some kind of imaginary special ki finisher? lmao get outta here
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    Last edited by ShadowyZero; 06-16-2024 at 04:58 PM.

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