SAM casting

[ShadowyZero]

I will just put my two cents here

Removing SAM's cast is removing DNC's dancing or BRD music and so on... it's what makes the feel so strong. It's the taste of the job.

I am against this, even if it changes to a "locked animation" it won't have the same impact, plus its its a fast cast you can even slidecast

i will re-iterate that the whole point of samurai is not to be mystifying (yes i've already addressed other comments stating this is "final fantasy" but where in the rules does it say a samurai has to be a caster? ) not even in anime styled media where they are most present do they go that hard on stand offs they just go straight into it hacking at eachother with blocking, parrying, and quick strikes/swings.
or even using some fancy sword play which results in either a stalemate or instant kill

and to your other point they've made some bosses even quicker than our "short" casts some bosses are instant casters which smacks us samurai who are mid cast or about to finish said cast hence why i feel there is a need to either further shorten casting times, to compensate our solid stance with either potency increases or giving to us a parrying or deflection boost/buff to iaijutsu an if they can't reasonable do that because of these stupid other complaints of " it will out perform my favorite melee nerf samurai!" or "muh balance!" SAM LITERALLY has no group utility so shove it! they are meant to be powerful to compensate for the lack of group support or synergy with other jobs. then maybe they need to consider just removing casts and inventing a more unique effect of showing off the skill of a samurai's technique and style.

[ShadowyZero]

ya'll out here complaining about casts but lets not forget BARD and MACHINIST also had casts once upon time where's the outrage for their removal gone!?
SAMURAI IS NOT A CASTER PERIOD IT WAS NOT DESIGNED TO BE A MAGE GET OVER IT YOU WERE GIVEN YOUR SWORD-MAGE HYBRID CALLED REDMAGE GO PLAY IT!

[Emitans]

ya'll out here complaining about casts but lets not forget BARD and MACHINIST also had casts once upon time where's the outrage for their removal gone!? or are ya'll just stuck up hypocrites? which is it? or maybe ya'll are just jaded black mage and summoner mains lmao i am really starting to wonder XD seriously.
SAMURAI IS NOT A CASTER PERIOD IT WAS NOT DESIGNED TO BE A MAGE GET OVER IT YOU WERE GIVEN YOUR SWORD-MAGE HYBRID CALLED REDMAGE GO PLAY IT!

Samurai has had cast bars since it was added to the game. It has always had them.

[ShadowyZero]

Samurai has had cast bars since it was added to the game. It has always had them.

so did machinist and so did summoner but wowie did they ever change their stance on it because of player feedback no machinist has 0 casting bars and summoner has had their casts significantly reduced.
do you want to add anything else? or should i just continue to add reasons as to why melee dps shouldn't have to cast if they are specifically not designed to be magical in nature?

[Nekuroi]

ya'll out here complaining about casts but lets not forget BARD and MACHINIST also had casts once upon time where's the outrage for their removal gone!?![/B]

I'm gonna bite:

HW BRD got a Cast because of MCH, but it didn't have before so people complained accordingly. Even tho it makes sense to me to have some cast time (since you gotta pull the string back) but still.

MCH was fine cuz the reload system since it was build upon that so it wasn't bad
but I wouldn't mind MCH getting some cast back (like drill to potency it up), or even the PvP action that you can cast but walk veeery slowly, I wouldn't mind one bit.

Plus, it's not "caster" it's "magical ranged", they can have cast time for flavor, which is the case for SAM.


It's the "relax and think on nothing" and bam, swords. And you can even slidecast at half of it to move.

[Xenoviastar]

ya'll out here complaining about casts but lets not forget BARD and MACHINIST also had casts once upon time where's the outrage for their removal gone!? or are ya'll just stuck up hypocrites? which is it? or maybe ya'll are just jaded black mage and summoner mains lmao i am really starting to wonder XD seriously.
SAMURAI IS NOT A CASTER PERIOD IT WAS NOT DESIGNED TO BE A MAGE GET OVER IT YOU WERE GIVEN YOUR SWORD-MAGE HYBRID CALLED REDMAGE GO PLAY IT!

I would love the return of Foe Requiem for Bards. sadly we have just accepted it since the dev's don't undo things.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

why melee dps shouldn't have to cast if they are specifically not designed to be magical in nature?

Samurai is magical in nature actually, you literally manifest ice when you Midare.

It's not a realistic swordsman, it's a "doing a draw slash to cut steel in half" kind of samurai. You can argue mechanics all you wish just don't try to argue the job is something it's not.

[Zairava]

Quite honestly after losing Kaiten removing the casts on Samurai would be the final nail in the coffin.

Removing the casts pretty much removes the last thing that makes using the big hits satisfying. It would just solidify being on the eternal bench after leveling it.

It really, really sucks to see the job in this state as someone who held the firm opinion that on EW launch samurai felt the best it ever has and makes me sad I didn't play it more at the time.

[mallleable]

They should give BRD, and MCH back their cast times, but like use the walking cast mechanic from their current PVP versions.

[ThorneDynasty]

They should give BRD, and MCH back their cast times, but like use the walking cast mechanic from their current PVP versions.

It'd give the role some badly needed flavor, plus the slow aim and walk feels great in PVP.

It kills me they have in fact acknowledged their PVP design is more interesting, but that they don't want to bring anything interesting into PVE because well, it might create *gasp* niches. The horror.