SAM casting

[AsiTsurugi]

Before Yoshida does an asspull again about "People complaining were more than ones who weren't" with regards to this, casting is the last thing that gives uniqueness to SAM and lends to its job fantasy. Any bottom of the barrel creature that cannot handle that can go play literally any other class, or "take a break", or "play something else".

[Arkdra]

Before Yoshida does an asspull again about "People complaining were more than ones who weren't" with regards to this, casting is the last thing that gives uniqueness to SAM and lends to its job fantasy. Any bottom of the barrel creature that cannot handle that can go play literally any other class, or "take a break", or "play something else".

Reaper has a cast on communio so it's not wholly unique. Pedantry aside though, the cast on iaijutsu rules and I would be big mad if they cut it.

[Taranok]

Reaper has a cast on communio so it's not wholly unique. Pedantry aside though, the cast on iaijutsu rules and I would be big mad if they cut it.

Also, the casts being a problem is a general issue of EW's encounter design. When you make fights that make casters hate the fights, eventually you nab caster-adjacent classes. The problem is encounter design, not SAM cast bars. Things like SAM feeling like crap in Superchain 1 of P12S is a consequence of encounter design. SAM was fine in the prior 2 expansions, even with slower casts. Hell, it wasn't until EW that other casters like BLM or RDM started to really suffer as well. The problem is encounter design. Fix the encounters, the problem goes away.

[Duskane]

nah i feel that is too key to samurai in many ways
like if they were instant cast it wouldn't feel as impactful or powerful in both game play and feel

[ShadowyZero]

And to those telling others to go play another job why would i be here asking if i wanted to play something else? this is literally the only dps with a single sword holstered to their waist nothing else compares to that aesthetic reaper is a scythe wielder yet swings around like its outta fashion when in reality no one can do such a feet with such a heavy blade ditto to dragoon their lances/spears probably weigh a whole lot as their purpose is intended to gouge or pierce not slash or cut
and monk is just martial arts which in itself should be faster than someone carry a heavy lance or scythe around let alone carry two short swords like ninja or now rogue 2.0(viper) but yet its not how convenient.
and while we speak of convenience isn't it funny how ninja which is also a blade practitioner has not only near instant casts when all depictions of such always show them weaving chi(ki) with their hands in order to "cast" ninjutsu
seriously i'm convinced ya'll are just haters of samurai and don't want it to outpace or outperform your own "preferences"

[GoatOfWar]

And to those telling others to go play another job why would i be here asking if i wanted to play something else?

Because the developers have a track record of ruining and homogenising jobs when players complain about the things that make jobs different.
I want to use a greatsword carrying job but you can only play Dark knight. But Dark knight has had it's job identity transplanted into Warrior multiple times, because of repeated complaints by War players that Dark knight did something better than Warrior. Without accounting for their own advantages, to where it is now just a downgrade and everyone wants drk reworked (again). Not only that, they're further homogenising and simplifying the tanks in Dawntrail.
I don't want this to happen on other roles as well. If you don't like having a cast time, maybe try another melee job. We don't need to make everything the same.
There are people who like having the cast times, do we just remove the cast times to make you happy and just tell them to quit?

And no, Sam is actually one of the most popular, and powerful jobs still.
People aren't hating. They are disagreeing with you.

[ShadowyZero]

People aren't hating. They are disagreeing with you.

your bias is showing clearly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯i dont hear your complaints about the other melee here at all you're just lashing out on samurai because i stated an unpopular opinion about melee jobs which are meant to be dishing the damage non stop should have no cast timers whatsoever. we have literal other jobs which are magic based where casting is apart of its identity or in other word evoking/enchantment. SO WHY DONT YOU go play one of them if you love casting mechanics so much? hm? funny how that works when it reversed on you huh

[ThorneDynasty]

People aren't hating. They are disagreeing with you.

Bump.

It's kind of sad watching someone with a victim complex start lashing out like a spoiled child at perceived personal slights, making their insecurity a self-fulfilling prophecy when that behavior inevitably starts to actually turn everyone against them.

[ShadowyZero]

Bump.

It's kind of sad watching someone with a victim complex start lashing out like a spoiled child at perceived personal slights, making their insecurity a self-fulfilling prophecy when that behavior inevitably starts to actually turn everyone against them.

LMAO bruh i was only asking for changes or removal of cast bars on a MELEE damage per second job XD i literally don't care if you or anyone likes me or not it was commentators in this thread who picked a fight by telling me to stop caring about my favorite job or abandon it LOL
and your being over generalizing this place this spot in the forum is no where near "everyone" neither you nor i represent an imaginary collective whole thats hive mind sheit hahaha what am i your favorite poster to make fun of now or something? there are other people here too that put fourth alternatives but you seem largely focused on just me XD please go do something else i am not that important to warrant your constant attention.

[nguyentri11]

Impractical fantasy moves is what I'm here for so I'd rather it stay.