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  1. #31
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    Machina Fabulae
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    I really wish I had the option to show non-binary.

    In Japanese, there are more difficulties than replacing "he/she" with "they". The Japanese language has yet to define a word similar to "they" that can be used regardless of tone of voice. I don't know how to solve this problem either.

    But anyway, I am fed up with the situation where gender is mentioned in every conversation. I hope we can have a conversation without having to add gender to every conversation.

    *I used a translation tool. There may be something wrong. Thanks for reading.
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    Last edited by stemi; 06-16-2024 at 11:29 PM.

  2. #32
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    There is clearly room to make different character body types without making them one-off (Dulia-Chai Mewlah and a few other unnamed characters in Eulmore basically a Miqo'te with lalafell animations.)
    Actually, going from some behind-the-scenes screenshots that were shown a while back, it seems that they're handled as oversized Lalafells with Miqo'te faces. The test model in the screenshots was in the Lalafell version of the hempen camise and bloomers.
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  3. #33
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    Sakura Ichijo
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    Quote Originally Posted by stemi View Post
    I really wish I had the option to show non-binary.

    In Japanese, there are more difficulties than replacing "he/she" with "they". The Japanese language has yet to define a word similar to "they" that can be used regardless of tone of voice. I don't know how to solve this problem either.

    But anyway, I am fed up with the situation where gender is mentioned in every conversation. I hope we can have a conversation without having to add gender to every conversation.

    *I used a translation tool. There may be something wrong. Thanks for reading.
    Thank you for your input.
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  6. #34
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Actually, going from some behind-the-scenes screenshots that were shown a while back, it seems that they're handled as oversized Lalafells with Miqo'te faces. The test model in the screenshots was in the Lalafell version of the hempen camise and bloomers.
    That just tells me that the ability to make such a character does actually exist and the lack of interest by the devs to want to make that more of a thing in the creator. Add a "third Miqo'te faction" in addition to Sunseeker and Moonseeker. Call them "Snowseeker" or something. They could probably do it with the hyur too, considering the Padjal are Hyur with horns.

    Anyway that was just a to highlight that the game engine does support at least a "larger lalafell" type of base. So it's very much something they likely could do, but they would probably prefer players that want bigger characters pick Roe or Hrothgar and maybe not realize some players want, something closer to a Dulia-Chai variant.

    Would I personally want to? Not really. I would want a way to have a somewhat thicker model, but I'm not going to lose sleep over that. The game's always had the drawback that the faces are nice but the body shapes leave a lot to be desired ("giraffe Elezen" have been in the game since 1.0)
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  8. #35
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    That just tells me that the ability to make such a character does actually exist and the lack of interest by the devs to want to make that more of a thing in the creator. Add a "third Miqo'te faction" in addition to Sunseeker and Moonseeker. Call them "Snowseeker" or something. They could probably do it with the hyur too, considering the Padjal are Hyur with horns.
    The problem here is gear. After a race is made, they'll need to make gear proportioned for that specific body shape and make sure the textures and scaling is correct. The gear replaces whole parts of the body, it isn't worn on the body. This is why they said making new races was such a big deal because of the lift and why we'll never get new ones after this. As for height sliders, what we have now already doesn't really work because it scales the entire body up or down together evenly instead of making a naturally looking short/tall person. I don't think I'd be a fan of making those a wider range than what they already are.

    For stuff like Garleans and Padjal, those characters have unique unplayable faces in the game that has those features. I'm not sure what the hold-up is for getting more face options, but the devs seemed to have made a big deal about unlocking the midlander beard face so there must be some limitation there.
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  9. #36
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    A very simple solution is to simply add a pronoun option to each body type. I think adding a She/He/They to both bodies would at the very least give more options. I don't think it's feasible to add in more body types at this stage, I mean, they haven't even finished Viera/Hrothgars yet.
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  10. #37
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    A very simple solution is to simply add a pronoun option to each body type. I think adding a She/He/They to both bodies would at the very least give more options. I don't think it's feasible to add in more body types at this stage, I mean, they haven't even finished Viera/Hrothgars yet.
    It's not just a matter of assigning pronouns though; you also have to adjust what the game does with them, and as previously discussed that would be a huge undertaking.

    Plus, it would at minimum require a new piece of information to be stored about the character, which they don't seem to be able to add freely. Right now any gender-variable dialogue just needs to check which character model you're using.
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  11. #38
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    Rithris Amaya
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    I will express my support for this. (Pronoun options should be a thing, future expressions could also try to be a little more neutral at the very least).

    Personally I'd love to mix & match some animations, I like some of the male miqo'te's emotes some of them would be nice, also ways your character moves it would be nice to have more then one option in my opinion. I also want us to have less clothes that are different from male to female, failure to do so they should add a option to switch between both styles.

    I think changes like these are nice to accommodate for players needs in this way.
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  12. #39
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    Alek Sol
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    Ravana
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    I like it the way it is with proper English being used.

    You're not playing yourself in this video game you're playing an adventurer entirely different from yourself.
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  13. #40
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    Shiro Kuroky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavise View Post
    I like it the way it is with proper English being used.

    You're not playing yourself in this video game you're playing an adventurer entirely different from yourself.
    Some want to create themself in the game, some just create a OC with a Lore behind
    This OC could be a cute little soft Boy (use Female chara as base) and wanted to be refer as "He" in the Story becuase he is a "He" and not a "She". Some want it the other way around or some wanted to play a NB.

    Everything is legit and no one get's hurt, when this would be a feature
    No one ask to let everything down and only work on this feature, but would be nice, if this will come in the future~

    (Sorry for the bad english :'D)
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