Character Creation, Customization, and Gender

[KisaiTenshi]

Rerecording voice lines of people who are no longer walking this earth would certainly be a difficult question, although I guess it depends a lot on who said what how much. Quite often the character is addressed with "you", nothing would need to change there.

This can be handled respectfully with AI just taking the existing line, and having it say the exact same line with the pronoun swapped, and would carry the same cadence. The problem with this is that this only works for specific characters that refer to you in third person. The game will sound more awkward if they changed every she/he to "they" just to not offend a few people who get upset, and it then offends people who don't like seeing it at all. You can't win, so you don't try.

Going forward though there are easier things the game can do. They could normalize the height scaling so that everyone gets the lalafell treatment (eg, male and female models have the same magnet options so that you could reasonably make female models taller and more/less busty, and male models shorter and less "masculine." That may require some gear to be off-limits (Eg gender-coded outfits like maid dresses, 2B's outfit, swimsuits) to those magnets to avoid "missing geometry" that require having a bust because it shows cleavage.

Like one of the reasons you don't see what "pokemon go" did more often, is because male and female animation rigs are different. If you try to normalize to a "one-gender" model, what you instead get is a very poor representation of any gender. You can see this effect in the VRoid software and a few other games that let you reconfigure the animation set. Realistically, a game has to have the gender split primarily because people get that uncanny valley vibe if the model doesn't look solidly male or female. But nobody said the female model couldn't go from AA to DDD, or any model go from 3'0 to 8'0. The only legitimate reason we have ANY restrictions on this at all is so people don't RolePlay as children, and certain gear would break because they aren't textured to stretch that much.

Honestly the adjustments to the bust size isn't even that controversial. If people forget 1.0, the bust size was tied to the face selected. You couldn't adjust it. People were just mildly annoyed that there wasn't options. No people were more annoyed about the miqo'te butt nerf with the release of 2.0 which was a consequence of making hyur and miqo'te models use the same gear, with all the terrible clipping on the tail. It would be nice to have, but it doesn't take from my enjoyment of the game.

To which I say to the OP, I hear you, but I don't see it too much ever changing with the character creator. There is clearly room to make different character body types without making them one-off (Dulia-Chai Mewlah and a few other unnamed characters in Eulmore basically a Miqo'te with lalafell animations.) But I think the most we will ever get in service to NB is seeing more configurable chest sizes at the expense of gear that can be worn if set too small or too big, if that's even a thing they want to consider. There are lore reasons for things being the way they are and outside of cross-overs we never see core changes.

[Iscah]

There is clearly room to make different character body types without making them one-off (Dulia-Chai Mewlah and a few other unnamed characters in Eulmore basically a Miqo'te with lalafell animations.)

Actually, going from some behind-the-scenes screenshots that were shown a while back, it seems that they're handled as oversized Lalafells with Miqo'te faces. The test model in the screenshots was in the Lalafell version of the hempen camise and bloomers.

[KisaiTenshi]

Actually, going from some behind-the-scenes screenshots that were shown a while back, it seems that they're handled as oversized Lalafells with Miqo'te faces. The test model in the screenshots was in the Lalafell version of the hempen camise and bloomers.

That just tells me that the ability to make such a character does actually exist and the lack of interest by the devs to want to make that more of a thing in the creator. Add a "third Miqo'te faction" in addition to Sunseeker and Moonseeker. Call them "Snowseeker" or something. They could probably do it with the hyur too, considering the Padjal are Hyur with horns.

Anyway that was just a to highlight that the game engine does support at least a "larger lalafell" type of base. So it's very much something they likely could do, but they would probably prefer players that want bigger characters pick Roe or Hrothgar and maybe not realize some players want, something closer to a Dulia-Chai variant.

Would I personally want to? Not really. I would want a way to have a somewhat thicker model, but I'm not going to lose sleep over that. The game's always had the drawback that the faces are nice but the body shapes leave a lot to be desired ("giraffe Elezen" have been in the game since 1.0)

[MikkoAkure]

That just tells me that the ability to make such a character does actually exist and the lack of interest by the devs to want to make that more of a thing in the creator. Add a "third Miqo'te faction" in addition to Sunseeker and Moonseeker. Call them "Snowseeker" or something. They could probably do it with the hyur too, considering the Padjal are Hyur with horns.

The problem here is gear. After a race is made, they'll need to make gear proportioned for that specific body shape and make sure the textures and scaling is correct. The gear replaces whole parts of the body, it isn't worn on the body. This is why they said making new races was such a big deal because of the lift and why we'll never get new ones after this. As for height sliders, what we have now already doesn't really work because it scales the entire body up or down together evenly instead of making a naturally looking short/tall person. I don't think I'd be a fan of making those a wider range than what they already are.

For stuff like Garleans and Padjal, those characters have unique unplayable faces in the game that has those features. I'm not sure what the hold-up is for getting more face options, but the devs seemed to have made a big deal about unlocking the midlander beard face so there must be some limitation there.