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    Rosie_Roses's Avatar
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    Rosie Roses
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Emitans View Post
    No one brought up politics but you
    To some people anything other than cis heterosexual people are "Not normal and political".
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    People know what they do; frequently they know why they do what they do; but what they don't know is what what they do does.

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    Reverie Arbeau
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 100
    My friend who plays a male Midlander was literally able to walk up to Zero and see that her proportions and running animations were the exact same as their character's. Her armor is specifically designed around a male Midlander body regardless of what the wiki says.

    Anyway to respond to OP; I really sympathize and in general would love for these type of options to eventually open up too. I've been wanting to play a female character as androgynous as Zero for like, a decade now, and am pretty excited for female Hrothgar since their proportions in armor appear to be the closest I'll ever get.

    Unfortunately, I would also temper expectations since it seems like they often do multiple takes with the voice actors for references to your character's gender using he/she pronouns (and this has been the standard since ARR, which means these takes include voice actors that they no longer work with). I feel like the only possibility of a "they" pronoun option ever happening would require people to be awkwardly okay with some voiced cutscenes in previous expansions only using "he" or "she"...
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Balmung
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Ye I've got a couple of nb characters and getting the wrong pronouns and honorifics is always a bit jarring. Every time I see them getting overly gendered it takes me out a bit.
    The pixies get the consideration, I think it's only fair players can have access to something similar.

    On a similar note it would also be nice to choose to be referred to by your forename or last name when casually being referred to by one name, (and vice versa for being referred to formally by one name) or having the option of only being referred to by both names.

    Would help a lot with Hellsguard Roegadyn players who would prefer not to be casually referred to as [Adjective] or Mx [Noun], and even though we have lore written to get around the current limitations for Raen Au Ra/Othardian Hyur and Roegadyn, it would be cool to allow them to take the [Surname] [Given name] naming convention.
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    Last edited by Roda; 06-15-2024 at 11:21 AM.
    ~sigh~

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    Reverie Arbeau
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    On a similar note it would also be nice to choose to be referred to by your forename or last name when casually being referred to by one name, (and vice versa for being referred to formally by one name) or having the option of only being referred to by both names.

    Would help a lot with Hellsguard Roegadyn players who would prefer not to be casually referred to as [Adjective] or Mx [Noun], and even though we have lore written to get around the current limitations for Raen Au Ra/Othardian Hyur and Roegadyn, it would be cool to allow them to take the [Surname] [Given name] naming convention.
    God, sorry, this just reminded me of how much it drives me nuts whenever I'm on my Seeker guy and he's referred to as "Ser Tia," or "Lord Tia," or "Commander Tia," since it's a title rather than a surname.

    I mean, I'm used to it! And honestly I think it's more funny than anything; it genuinely gives me a little chuckle every time it happens. Just, at the same time, I'm always thinking "damn...I wonder which guy he's referrin' to..." considering the vast majority of Seeker men out there adventuring should be a Tia.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Doopliss View Post
    God, sorry, this just reminded me of how much it drives me nuts whenever I'm on my Seeker guy and he's referred to as "Ser Tia," or "Lord Tia," or "Commander Tia," since it's a title rather than a surname.

    I mean, I'm used to it! And honestly I think it's more funny than anything; it genuinely gives me a little chuckle every time it happens. Just, at the same time, I'm always thinking "damn...I wonder which guy he's referrin' to..." considering the vast majority of Seeker men out there adventuring should be a Tia.
    Not exactly the same problem but related, I've brought the issue of Sir Surname up on the Localization Forum a few times. It's especially jarring to be referred to as Sir Surname or Master Surname when in the same breath that NPC refers to another NPC as Master Forename or Lady Forename.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Not exactly the same problem but related, I've brought the issue of Sir Surname up on the Localization Forum a few times. It's especially jarring to be referred to as Sir Surname or Master Surname when in the same breath that NPC refers to another NPC as Master Forename or Lady Forename.
    Yeah, I've noticed that a few times too. It even happens when the NPC has a known surname, so can be easily addressed by it if needed.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    On a similar note it would also be nice to choose to be referred to by your forename or last name when casually being referred to by one name, (and vice versa for being referred to formally by one name) or having the option of only being referred to by both names.
    I've also wished for this. It could be managed client-side since it doesn't need to be broadcast to other players, just be inserted into dialogue on your end.

    The fields would probably be something like:
    - casual name for close friends
    - standard name that most people would address you by
    - formal first name or equivalent
    - formal full name
    - surname or equivalent to be used in a "Mr/Ms [Surname]" construction.


    So then for example for Seeker names you'd fill in Raha, G'raha, G'raha Tia as the three levels of handling "first name", the full name is also G'raha Tia and then there would have to be some new lore-rule made about which part of the name should be used in a surname situation.

    It would also just be nice in general for characters who use shortened versions of their full name in most cases, and also lets you manually choose to some extent whether certain characters will start getting "close and informal" when addressing you or whether you just put the same name form into both fields.
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Bard Lv 100
    I think it was Cyberpunk 2077, and maybe some other games where body features, and gender were separate options. It would be nice if it were like that in xiv.
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    Shiro Kuroky
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 95
    This would be a dream if I could decide whether the NPC's refers to me as a "he" or "she". Some of my oc's would really need it~
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    Nia Niyah
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    Dancer Lv 100
    You can already have this, just say your character is they/them voila you have what you want
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