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    Can We Please add ilvl Sync to Normal Raids and Alliance Raids?

    Let me preface this by saying that I love FFXIV's raid content, I enjoy all of them and have played through every normal and alliance raid series.

    But I notice that the first tier of each normal raid series and the first alliance raid in each series always age poorly with current gear. By this, I mean that you can skip many boss mechanics easily. I feel this is especially problematic in Aglaia, where the fights are extremely short and you miss many fun mechanics with current gear. For example, in the final boss, Nald'thal, you will almost always skip the scale mechanic, causing new players to miss out on this mechanic. I feel this is harmful to the new player experience, as they will be unable to see these mechanics unless their group has unusually low dps.

    If anyone can tell me why there isn't ilvl sync for the first tiers of raids or the first alliance raid, I would like to know, please!

    I feel bad whenever I run such raids with new players and they miss out on some of the experience due to the party being too well geared. I love FFXIV and want people to be able to enjoy the full experience for years to come.
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    Squires Ailith
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    On one hand, if we're going to ilvl sync everything, then there's no point in getting better gear. On the other hand, there are mechanics people have never seen. In Syrcus tower, how many people have seen daybreak on the first boss or know about the mechanic of bouncing between platforms on the 2nd boss.

    I have no problem skipping scales though, that mechanic was too easy to troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brill_ View Post
    On one hand, if we're going to ilvl sync everything, then there's no point in getting better gear. On the other hand, there are mechanics people have never seen. In Syrcus tower, how many people have seen daybreak on the first boss or know about the mechanic of bouncing between platforms on the 2nd boss.

    I have no problem skipping scales though, that mechanic was too easy to troll.
    There is still need for better gear because not every patch dungeon syncs down to the same level. Anabeseios has a higher min ilvl than Asphodelos. Aglaia has a lower ilvl than Thaleia. The first MSQ patch dungeon has a lower ilvl than the last. Gearing played an important part for me and my friend because we had to keep up with the minimum item level.

    I like the idea of a proper sync very much and heard this wish for years from so many people. And it did wonders for the final 6.0 trial where you only couldn't skip the "second enrage" because it was mandatory before they added proper sync. The fights were supposed to be doable for casuals at patch day and as someone who is semi-casual to midcore and played all EW duties on their respective patch day, I feel qualified to say this is a vastly different and way more fun experience. Yes, the scales in particular invited some people to troll, but idk, most of the time I ran them, people were solving the mechanic just fine, and it was nice you could use a ranged or caster LB2 on the clones. It is also still simply a bit more interesting and unusual than your average "burn down enemy until ded, maybe dodge an AOE" thing. And not every patch duty is Aglaia... By now there are times where you don't even make it to LB2 in the first panda normal raid, or in Troia, that's just sad. You are missing out on so many interesting things. :/
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    The problem with Aglaia scales isnt the sync anyway, so its bad to say "Sync is bad because i want to skip scales"; Ive said on the week of release, its weird to put it so LATE into the fight. The AoE combos he does right before the scales should come after instead, allowing the alliance to wail on the guy for a solid minute, with Lb3 and the buff, while he charges and indicates everything, simultaneously moving the scales to a MUCH earlier part in the fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brill_ View Post
    On the other hand, there are mechanics people have never seen. In Syrcus tower, how many people have seen daybreak on the first boss or know about the mechanic of bouncing between platforms on the 2nd boss.
    Who does remember the worms of Cloud of Darkness? Even back in HW I think I saw them maybe... twice? They were so hilarious though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Who does remember the worms of Cloud of Darkness? Even back in HW I think I saw them maybe... twice? They were so hilarious though.
    I think I actually saw them once during Shadowbringers or Endwalker in an exceptionally bad run. An absolute rarity though.
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    Imma say this now for the future. Be careful what you ask for
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboYumi View Post
    The problem with Aglaia scales isnt the sync anyway, so its bad to say "Sync is bad because i want to skip scales"; Ive said on the week of release, its weird to put it so LATE into the fight. The AoE combos he does right before the scales should come after instead, allowing the alliance to wail on the guy for a solid minute, with Lb3 and the buff, while he charges and indicates everything, simultaneously moving the scales to a MUCH earlier part in the fight.
    It does take awhile to reach scales! I find it funny how he says "This is only the beginning" during the AOE part and then dies right after
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minali View Post
    There is still need for better gear because not every patch dungeon syncs down to the same level. Anabeseios has a higher min ilvl than Asphodelos. Aglaia has a lower ilvl than Thaleia. The first MSQ patch dungeon has a lower ilvl than the last. Gearing played an important part for me and my friend because we had to keep up with the minimum item level.

    I like the idea of a proper sync very much and heard this wish for years from so many people. And it did wonders for the final 6.0 trial where you only couldn't skip the "second enrage" because it was mandatory before they added proper sync. The fights were supposed to be doable for casuals at patch day and as someone who is semi-casual to midcore and played all EW duties on their respective patch day, I feel qualified to say this is a vastly different and way more fun experience. Yes, the scales in particular invited some people to troll, but idk, most of the time I ran them, people were solving the mechanic just fine, and it was nice you could use a ranged or caster LB2 on the clones. It is also still simply a bit more interesting and unusual than your average "burn down enemy until ded, maybe dodge an AOE" thing. And not every patch duty is Aglaia... By now there are times where you don't even make it to LB2 in the first panda normal raid, or in Troia, that's just sad. You are missing out on so many interesting things. :/
    Yes exactly! Imo level sync should be used in places where you'd miss out on significant parts of fights without it. I'd love it if they added it to ARR alliance raids because I'm so bored of cheesing every fight, especially when your skill kit is so limited.
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    It's not just ilvl sync at play here.

    Players get stronger over time through gear, stat growth, potency adjustments, food, pots, new abilities etc.

    Natural power creep is why content gets skipped/cheesed.
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