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    Was Kind of Hoping for New Systems

    I understand that we're getting our standard array of content and that it's going to fulfill the needs for a while, BUT I was also hoping for something new and previously unseen. I understand that if we're getting anything like that it'll be in the x.2 or later timeframe.

    I guess in future I would like to see new systems at expansion launch instead of 6 months or more in.

    It's also a little saddening that what we'll be getting is a refinement of what we've already seen. Field content is better than Island Sanctuary, but still looking for that new hook to get excited about.
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    Look at the bright side: you get to complain about not getting new content now, and then you get to complain about the new content when in comes in 7.X. It's a win-win!
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    what kind of new systems at launch would you like?

    a lot of new systems are later so that noone has to feel pressured to rush through the story or lvling, it's also why savage is put on hold so people can enjoy themselves. course that is solely for end game content systems.

    i will say some things do come in the expansion launch like the shared fate system, at least when its was originally introduced now its just like hunts something extra attached to the launch that is nice but not something players are super hyped for.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    For system changes...

    Graphics update
    New raid planner in the game
    Beast master
    Viper
    Pictomancer
    Two dye slots
    Save dye favorites
    Specs as actual gear slots instead of fashion accessories
    Ability to make blacklisted players disappear or filter terms
    Fantasia can be re-used for 60 minutes of logged in /playtime
    Can do ventures via the companion app
    Cosmic Exploration is technically new, although should be similar ish to the Firmament
    Deep dungeon will function a bit different somehow
    Option to hide players around quests
    Messages display in the middle of your screen for mechanics
    Emotes/recipes display next to quests when they need to be pressed
    Climb up ladders

    This wasn't announced anywhere, but a casual observation I personally noticed in the media tour: bicolor gemstone drops are 16, get buffed by Forlorn Maidens to 20, and by having the Twist of Fate buff (24). Combined with the announced cap increase to 1,500.

    Probably other QoL they will leave for the patch notes.

    They said there are more announcements to come after 7.0.

    But obviously this game has had a formula since the start and they mostly stick to it. It's the same stuff as usual. So you either like what they produce each expansion or you don't, but at least you know what to expect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    For system changes...

    *snip*

    They said there are more announcements to come after 7.0.

    But obviously this game has had a formula since the start and they mostly stick to it. It's the same stuff as usual. So you either like what they produce each expansion or you don't, but at least you know what to expect.
    Most of those things you listed, I would call features and they're very much appreciated. The two-channel dye, the specs as a dedicated glam slot, the fantasia updates, all great things.

    System Updates to me would be things like:

    * adding the Shared FATE system
    * adding V&C dungeons
    * adding roulettes
    * adding CC
    * adding flying
    * adding role quest system
    * adding custom delivery system
    * adding spear fishing minigame
    * adding the new gathering system
    * adding Island Sanctuary
    * adding Eureka's elemental system
    * adding Lost Actions

    I'm talking about something that gives me a different way to interact with the game. It doesn't have to be radically different for me to enjoy it. I just would have appreciated something new.
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    Kinda Hungry
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    You're supposed to be very impressed that we can now hide players around NPCs.
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    Nia Niyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    For system changes...

    Graphics update
    New raid planner in the game
    Beast master
    Viper
    Pictomancer
    Two dye slots
    Save dye favorites
    Specs as actual gear slots instead of fashion accessories
    Ability to make blacklisted players disappear or filter terms
    Fantasia can be re-used for 60 minutes of logged in /playtime
    Can do ventures via the companion app
    Cosmic Exploration is technically new, although should be similar ish to the Firmament
    Deep dungeon will function a bit different somehow
    Option to hide players around quests
    Messages display in the middle of your screen for mechanics
    Emotes/recipes display next to quests when they need to be pressed
    Climb up ladders

    This wasn't announced anywhere, but a casual observation I personally noticed in the media tour: bicolor gemstone drops are 16, get buffed by Forlorn Maidens to 20, and by having the Twist of Fate buff (24). Combined with the announced cap increase to 1,500.

    Probably other QoL they will leave for the patch notes.

    They said there are more announcements to come after 7.0.

    But obviously this game has had a formula since the start and they mostly stick to it. It's the same stuff as usual. So you either like what they produce each expansion or you don't, but at least you know what to expect.
    Beast masters not coming til .4
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    Sjol Fantl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    what kind of new systems at launch would you like?

    a lot of new systems are later so that noone has to feel pressured to rush through the story or lvling, it's also why savage is put on hold so people can enjoy themselves. course that is solely for end game content systems.
    6.0 additions:
    * gathering overhaul
    * spearfishing minigame update

    5.0 additions:
    * trust system
    * Shared FATE
    * charged actions

    4.0 additions:
    * swimming
    * original spearfishing
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  9. #9
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjol View Post
    * adding Island Sanctuary
    * adding Eureka's elemental system
    * adding Lost Actions
    Alright, well, expect Cosmic Exploration to be different.

    Also, just like Bozja was not exactly the same as Eureka, Shade's Triangle most likely won't be either.

    Beast master will be a new way to play the game. I'm sure it will have different UI etc.

    Viper and Pictomancer, ultimately, are new jobs and therefore new playstyles. The other jobs mostly aren't changing much except AST.

    As I mentioned, they said there would be something different about deep dungeons, I'm just not sure what.
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    Fresh Tree
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Alright, well, expect Cosmic Exploration to be different.

    Also, just like Bozja was not exactly the same as Eureka, Shade's Triangle most likely won't be either.

    Beast master will be a new way to play the game. I'm sure it will have different UI etc.

    Viper and Pictomancer, ultimately, are new jobs and therefore new playstyles. The other jobs mostly aren't changing much except AST.

    As I mentioned, they said there would be something different about deep dungeons, I'm just not sure what.
    That's 1 year and 6 months from now.
    Beastmaster's 2 years away or more from now.

    By the time these release the expansion will be on its way out.
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