Let us queue with same people

[Mostly_Raxus]

The opposition in this thread over the mere suggestion of being asked if you wanna do another dungeon/roulette explains why nothing will even improve in this game, there are to many players in this game that dont want to play a mmorpg and it shows... please gatekeep your interests more people..

[Menriq]

The opposition in this thread over the mere suggestion of being asked if you wanna do another dungeon/roulette explains why nothing will even improve in this game, there are to many players in this game that dont want to play a mmorpg and it shows... please gatekeep your interests more people..

No one has still explained how this works when there are different ways of getting grouped. Given this scenario:

Tank queues as mentor.
Healer queues as leveling.
DPS1 queues directly for that specific dungeon.
DPS2 queues as 50/60/70/80.

What exactly are you expecting the next dungeon / roulette to be exactly?

[Roda]

No one has still explained how this works when there are different ways of getting grouped. Given this scenario:

Tank queues as mentor.
Healer queues as leveling.
DPS1 queues directly for that specific dungeon.
DPS2 queues as 50/60/70/80.

What exactly are you expecting the next dungeon / roulette to be exactly?

Oh, 'cause that's a job for the devs to figure out with their libraries and resources and development pipelines, not for random forumgoers to argue out the intricate details in a forum interface that barely exceeds 2000s era forum organization/function with spotty information based on how things feel to them.
Half this forum can't describe the difference between 2 pictures in a constructive manner, and you expect us to pour over spreadsheets, flowcharts, and brainstorming boards before a player's desire for a QoL feature can be deemed worthy of the devs' gaze?

Also.
If we want to handle it similarly to how WoW handles it, change the dutyfinder interface within instances to have the same functionality as it has outside of an instance. Allow the party leader to queue the existing party and its remaining members for a duty as if they were outside of the instance already grouped. They can add a readycheck-like function on queuing to get consent from the individual partymembers. Those who deny are removed from the party and those who accept are queued in with the leader.

Or, if we want to simplify it to be more comfortable for XIV's current interface, just have a choice on exiting the dungeon to remain in the crossworld party for ease of continuing on with the people you were running with so we don't have to stop the groove by having a post instance discussion of if we want to continue and how to set up the group afterwards and then have to root through the contacts list or fiddle with finding/creating a PF. Basically just a button for "automatically invite/join a crossworld party with previous group". Like this is a really tame QoL request???


And I see a lot of confusion surrounding the term "next dungeon". It does not mean some instance that is somehow predetermined by the game for the group to be queued into. It's a stand in for the answer "Hey guys, that was fun, wanna run some more, if so what do you want to run next?"

[Mostly_Raxus]

No one has still explained how this works when there are different ways of getting grouped. Given this scenario:

Tank queues as mentor.
Healer queues as leveling.
DPS1 queues directly for that specific dungeon.
DPS2 queues as 50/60/70/80.

What exactly are you expecting the next dungeon / roulette to be exactly?

the freedom to ask the party and re-queue with the ones that agree and remain in the instance. have you not played any other modern MMORPGs? grps deciding to continue running together just for fun or say its tues and we are farming x dung for tome cap...
you act like this option forces you to engage in it?
why does something you can actively not participate in affect you?

its a multiplayer game, let us make friends in instances and continue running with them if we want. you can just leave at the end and go back to what ever you want.

[Menriq]

the freedom to ask the party and re-queue with the ones that agree and remain in the instance. have you not played any other modern MMORPGs? grps deciding to continue running together just for fun or say its tues and we are farming x dung for tome cap...
you act like this option forces you to engage in it?
why does something you can actively not participate in affect you?

its a multiplayer game, let us make friends in instances and continue running with them if we want. you can just leave at the end and go back to what ever you want.

It affects me because resources for working on this would take away from other things they could be working on. When it comes to priority, I would imagine this would be pretty low on the list because the return on investment would more than likely not justify this. There are so many things people aren't thinking of when they ask for something and think it's just something so simple and should be quick. I get this all the time as a developer. Once you start enlightening people on just how involved it is, it opens their eyes that it's not as simple as it sounds.

[Mostly_Raxus]

It affects me because resources for working on this would take away from other things they could be working on. When it comes to priority, I would imagine this would be pretty low on the list because the return on investment would more than likely not justify this. There are so many things people aren't thinking of when they ask for something and think it's just something so simple and should be quick. I get this all the time as a developer. Once you start enlightening people on just how involved it is, it opens their eyes that it's not as simple as it sounds.

its a multi billion dollar company, if they are not working on something you like its not because they dont have the funds, its because they dont care.


you get that your straw-man argument can be used with anything right? why are jobs getting stale and homogenized? because fixing them could take away from them doing something i want instead...
your "what if" is very convenient but not based in any fact or truth.

[Somnolence]

its a multi billion dollar company, if they are not working on something you like its not because they dont have the funds, its because they dont care..

Is there reason for them to care about this?

[Menriq]

its a multi billion dollar company, if they are not working on something you like its not because they dont have the funds, its because they dont care.


you get that your straw-man argument can be used with anything right? why are jobs getting stale and homogenized? because fixing them could take away from them doing something i want instead...
your "what if" is very convenient but not based in any fact or truth.

If I may ask, how many software development projects have you worked on?

[Mostly_Raxus]

If I may ask, how many software development projects have you worked on?

how many straw-mans have you made? just because you got a 2 year degree and program a buggy phone app that will never see the light of day means nothing to me.
any idiot can look at a development cycle and compare it to teams of a similar budget and see the bull crap your are about to spew.