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    I would disagree. Motivation is only half the factor. If players aren't enticed by a 15-17 minute dungeon versus a 25-30 minute dungeon then they probably aren't going to pay attention the ranking system if it doesn't amount to anything beyond a pat on the back.

    The game needs to put players in a position where they have to improve - Even just relative to the content they are doing. If players aren't in that position then a lot of them won't improve. Players that aren't improving under the current system aren't going to start improving because they got a pat on the back from a score screen.

    Instead of a ranking system, it would probably be better to have duty-specific goals/achievements, e.g., "Kill Merciless Matriarch: Rukshs Dheem in Anamnesis Anyder without spawning an avoidable Queen's Harpooner" - Or you can have one on the flipside for "Kill Merciless Matriarch: Rukshs Dheem in Anamnesis Anyder whilst spawning all possible Queen's Harpooner (dependent on kill time)" - Then you are encouraging people to clear the duties in specific or creative ways, versus a... "You completed Tower of Zot in 15 minutes (sync'd) - Rank Achieved: S Rank"
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    I'm just against people who don't understand the assignment in the text. Just as I will be against you. I wrote that I have your opinion whether you like the proposal or not where the sun does not shine. Still, there are a bunch of people here who don't have the decency to understand that I was trying to develop a discussion on how to implement such a Rating system into the game to motivate and not hurt players instead of looking for reasons why it wouldn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasOfEger View Post
    I'm just against people who don't understand the assignment in the text. Just as I will be against you. I wrote that I have your opinion whether you like the proposal or not where the sun does not shine. Still, there are a bunch of people here who don't have the decency to understand that I was trying to develop a discussion on how to implement such a Rating system into the game to motivate and not hurt players instead of looking for reasons why it wouldn't work.

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    This is discussion forum, not an agree with you forum. If people don't like your idea they are free to post about it. If you don't want that, don't post here.
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    It's not that I mind that someone disagrees with me but apparently you can't read either. I just wanted people to engage their minds together to figure out how such a Rating could be implemented into the game if anyone wanted it at all. Instead of the community here starting to think about how it could be done, there are a bunch of less understanding people who can't understand that I'm completely uninterested in their crying about why it couldn't be done and finding reasons why it couldn't be done.
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    OP:
    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasOfEger View Post
    It's not that I mind that someone disagrees with me but apparently you can't read either. I just wanted people to engage their minds together to figure out how such a Rating could be implemented into the game if anyone wanted it at all.
    Also OP:
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    I want to ask everyone in advance that I am absolutely not interested in a reply to this post along the lines of "No it won't work, they'll never add it to the game, I don't want it, etc"
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    Can you pick a side please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasOfEger View Post
    I'm just against people who don't understand the assignment in the text. Just as I will be against you. I wrote that I have your opinion whether you like the proposal or not where the sun does not shine. Still, there are a bunch of people here who don't have the decency to understand that I was trying to develop a discussion on how to implement such a Rating system into the game to motivate and not hurt players instead of looking for reasons why it wouldn't work.

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    and I am against people who don't encourage an open discussion irrespective of whether they find the proposal a good idea or not. As someone said, this is not an "I agree with you" forum. It's an open forum where people are welcomed to engage with the discussion in question, regardless of what parameters you want to try and dictate for the discussion. Whether you like this fact or not the 'sun is still going to shine', this is something that works both ways.

    If you are looking to introduce a system you don't exclusively look for reasons as to why it would work, and try and scrape and claw the feature into the game. You need to understand why such a feature wouldn't work, and what systems might be better to introduce instead, much like a proposed with duty-specific goals and achievements.

    You're sabotaging your own thread anyway, good job!
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    You don't pay my sub.

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    IMO unnecessary.

    Dungeons are 4man but you can really complete it with just 2-3 people tbh. Same with trials, you can complete with 5-7. Hell, even UWU and UCOB can be completed with 7 people with 1 person on the floor.

    What I'm saying is there is no strong need to impose a level/standard of gameplay on players when the game isn't that strict to begin with. FFXIV is a story RPG like the other core titles before it is an MMO. They will not add any kind of features that will discourage the casuals.
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