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    Copium or Hopium: Jobs will get individuality in Dawntrail instead of 8.0?

    https://www.gamesradar.com/games/fin...implification/

    As the Final Fantasy 14 community expresses concern about the oversimplification of jobs, director Yoshi-P reveals that he's aware - and that yes, Dawntrail's future updates will remedy this.

    While attending the recent Final Fantasy 14 Dawntrail preview event, GamesRadar+ spoke to director and producer Naoki 'Yoshi-P' Yoshida regarding controversial job changes like the removal of Kaiten from Samurai's rotation in 6.1. Among the MMO's fanbase, there have long been concerns now about classes becoming too simple - with SAM being just one of many. For example, one Reddit poll asking players whether they're worried about Dawntrail further contributing to the "oversimplification of jobs" revealed that largely, the community is indeed afraid.

    From the various changes made to Astrologian's card and sect systems (much to my own dismay) to DPS class ability nerfs some fans remark that they "don't think it's possible for them to make jobs any simpler than they are." Thankfully, Yoshi-P is well aware of this sentiment, as is the rest of the Final Fantasy 14 team. In our interview with the developer, he promises that jobs like SAM "won't be simplified any further," explaining that he's still "really torn" about job tweaks like the removal of Kaiten. At the time of the skill's removal, Yoshi-P says "There were more people requesting Kaiten to be removed than there were that we're happy with it."

    He continues, describing how "there's no answer" in situations like this as "there are always going to be some people who prefer more difficult mechanics, and then others who prefer simple mechanics." He's not wrong - the removal of skills like Kaiten always sparks varying responses, with many missing an ability but others disagreeing. This doesn't mean Square Enix doesn't take overwhelmingly negative feedback on board, though. Yoshi-P states that right now, he's also "concerned" about "the simplicity" of jobs - just as a majority of fans are.

    The beloved dev wants each player to have the ability to "showcase one's own technique or expertise," but says that "we're not in a good situation for that" due to the jobs' "simplicity as it is" right now. Yoshi-P then reveals that the team will remedy this as Dawntrail and its future updates roll out, "working towards a more fulfilling playing experience" in patch 7.2 and beyond: "We will look to the jobs and we will focus on providing more individuality in the jobs."

    In an attempt to curb multiple updates' worth of simplification, Yoshi-P details how Square Enix "will be incorporating various changes" post-Dawntrail, some of which will be "related to the skill rotations." He even jokes that Kaiten could return as "Kaiten 2" and reiterates his earlier promise - come such changes, classes "will not be more simple." I doubt I'll ever see the intricate AST card system from years past make a comeback, but I'm hopeful for others as the director stresses how well he understands "that a lot of players want to be able to think for themselves."
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    Let's be real, job feedback is currently all over the place. A cacophony. I hope the devs are actually committed to not kneejerking on feedback and actually analyze and understand why the feedback exists and find an elegant solution out of all the myriad, often contradictory feedback that the community is giving.
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    I'll believe it when I see it but I dont expect massive job reworks mid expansion for basically the entire roster.
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    At the time of the skill's removal, Yoshi-P says "There were more people requesting Kaiten to be removed than there were that we're happy with it."

    What absolutely insane reasoning. Is that what players need to do? Constantly post about how they love X skill or Y rotation so they don't remove it? Of course they aren't going to get feedback from people who enjoy the skill prior to it being removed!

    The large outcry post removal should have been the immediate indicator that it was the wrong move to make.

    It's one thing if a poll was put up and the majority voted to remove it but that's not what happened.

    As a player who no longer plays Samurai after the changes that were made in 6.1 I'm absolutely floored . . .
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    It's another 4 years of


    Just like viera/hrothgar hats which we'll get as a "new expansion feature for 8.0!"
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    The individuality: job-specific emotes, available on Mogstation starting Patch 7.2!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
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    Yeah... I'm gonna take what Yoshi P says with a grain of salt. Until we see at least some plan of action these are just empty words to me.
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    The Legends of the Titanmen lives on, a shining example of the power of compassion and the ability of people to make a difference in the world. A reminder that even in the darkest of times, there is always hope, as long as there are heroes like the Titanmen who dare to do good deeds in Eorzea.

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    Show, don't tell. But I hope they start with physical ranged DPS, and healers as those two roles seem to be in the worst state in terms of where they fit in the game. Also please buff BRD, and give it PVP style walking casts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman View Post
    Yeah... I'm gonna take what Yoshi P says with a grain of salt. Until we see at least some plan of action these are just empty words to me.
    cease your signature at once
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    cease your signature at once
    I refuse, brother. Welcome back. This forum needs you.
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    The Legends of the Titanmen lives on, a shining example of the power of compassion and the ability of people to make a difference in the world. A reminder that even in the darkest of times, there is always hope, as long as there are heroes like the Titanmen who dare to do good deeds in Eorzea.

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