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    Will Dawntrail Surprise Us With A Major LGBTQ+ Character In The MSQ

    Will Dawntrail Surprise Us With A Major LGBTQ+ Character In The MSQ

    All the signs are pointing to Endwalker including a major LGBTQ+ character in the MSQ, if you look at the history of CBU3.

    First, they allowed Same Gender Eternal Ceremony bonds.

    Second, Square Enix publicly supports Black Lives Matter by donating 250 million dollars.

    https://www.thegamer.com/square-enix...tter-movement/

    Third, Square Enix publicly supports the LGBTQ+ movement by making Dion Lesage a gay character in FF16. It even got banned in Saudi Arabia.



    So, I Believe... The Next Movement of this symphony is an LGBTQ+ character in FF14. Because FF16 had a gay masculine-identifying character, we will probably get a Femme LGBT character, or even Trans. I think Zero may come out as Lesbian in Dawntrail.

    What are your thoughts?
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    Who the kupo cares? Like seriously?

    I personally feel like the Devs shouldn't be forced to implement something cause of some pressure from outside. Let them make their own decisions, if a character is gay then that character is gay, duh. And if they decide the whole world is straight also fine by me. Rather have them focus on important character traits and not some sexuality bs no matter if straight or gay.

    Also we already have multiple gay characters/couples in the game. Enough representation for my taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Who the kupo cares? Like seriously?

    I personally feel like the Devs shouldn't be forced to implement something cause of some pressure from outside. Let them make their own decisions, if a character is gay then that character is gay, duh. And if they decide the whole world is straight also fine by me. Rather have them focus on important character traits and not some sexuality bs no matter if straight or gay.

    Also we already have multiple gay characters/couples in the game. Enough representation for my taste.
    People like seeing themselves represented in things that they like.

    It's really not that hard a concept to grasp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    People like seeing themselves represented in things that they like.

    It's really not that hard a concept to grasp.
    Maybe i am a deviant deviant then cause i am gay and i sure don't like it when stuff like sexuality gets the spotlight. It's a interesting sidenote maybe, like with the Quest in ARR and that was more than enough, a bit of acknowledgment that came from the devs without getting asked for it or pressured.

    In my eyes true equality and acceptance is only achieved if humanity can finally stop giving a fuck about other peoples legal private life choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    People like seeing themselves represented in things that they like.

    It's really not that hard a concept to grasp.
    I am bisexual, and I dont need/want to be represented

    Am I doing it wrong ?

    Why do NPC's in a video game have to be the same sexuality as me ? Does it matter ? Is it going to change my life ?

    No it wont, I quite literally dont care.

    I dont need people to "confirm" my sexual identity, I am bi, I know it, I dont need the entire world to adjust to my sexuality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I am bisexual, and I dont need/want to be represented

    Am I doing it wrong ?

    Why do NPC's in a video game have to be the same sexuality as me ? Does it matter ? Is it going to change my life ?

    No it wont, I quite literally dont care.

    I dont need people to "confirm" my sexual identity, I am bi, I know it, I dont need the entire world to adjust to my sexuality.
    Perhaps you lived a privileged life in that regard, but some of us grew up without any idols or people to look after in media (especially when raised by very conservative people), together with suffering all sorts of violence, even from within our families. That's exactly why representation is important.

    I constantly see variations of the expression "it should happen when it makes sense". But when it would make sense? If sexuality shouldn't matter, then what's the paramenter to decide between what kind of relationship is portrayed when one is due to appear? This applies to any kind of minority being represented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Perhaps you lived a privileged life in that regard, but some of us grew up without any idols or people to look after in media (especially when raised by very conservative people), together with suffering all sorts of violence, even from within our families. That's exactly why representation is important.

    I constantly see variations of the expression "it should happen when it makes sense". But when it would make sense? If sexuality shouldn't matter, then what's the paramenter to decide between what kind of relationship is portrayed when one is due to appear? This applies to any kind of minority being represented.
    This is a video game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Perhaps you lived a privileged life in that regard, but some of us grew up without any idols or people to look after in media (especially when raised by very conservative people), together with suffering all sorts of violence, even from within our families. That's exactly why representation is important.

    I constantly see variations of the expression "it should happen when it makes sense". But when it would make sense? If sexuality shouldn't matter, then what's the paramenter to decide between what kind of relationship is portrayed when one is due to appear? This applies to any kind of minority being represented.
    Demanding representation is a big sign of leading a privileged life though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Perhaps you lived a privileged life in that regard, but some of us grew up without any idols or people to look after in media (especially when raised by very conservative people), together with suffering all sorts of violence, even from within our families. That's exactly why representation is important.
    My hero growing up was Optimus Prime, you know, the transformable alien robo-truck.

    I'm a woman from a latin american country that has been tethering on the edge of economical collapse since I can remember.

    I clearly had nothing in common with a robot, yet I looked up to him, because the values he represented reached me so, maybe, other things are more important than just looking to share a few characteristics with a fictional character?

    Also Leon-O was number 2 in my list of childhood heroes... and I'm not even a redhead.
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    Forced representation is not good and it is disingenuous. Allow it to come naturally through the sequence of events that follow in the story, or allow the hunts to be subtle and interpretive, or don't have it happen at all, IMO

    It shouldn't really feel forced into the story., subtleties such as that with the Steadfast Companion and the Blundering Treasure Hunter are nice, as is the Rising vendor NPC. - They shouldn't need to force it on peoples' faces because bothering to learn about the world and its inhabitants is too difficult.
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