Thread: 8.0 and Onwards.

The Azem crystall give the WoL the ability to summon allways other beeings to him (i think it was never stated, who or what they are, at last, do i not remember that). So, from story telling is he allways outnumbering the enemie. Whe dont even know, what strenght they have. In theorie could he summon them for every encounter. Even, again one of the bugs at the start.

Removing the stone would make that stuff impossible. But, at the same time would it be again a pain in the ... for the writer, to explain, where allies are coming. Or, if he is solo again (like fight again Ifrit: cut scene for and after the fight shows, that WoL is solo, in the fight are other people there, Or Titan: you was senden first and it was stated, that the others are trying to follow as fast as possible, but arive only after the fight, and yet, are other people there in the fight).

Removing the light stones would probably be a better nerf.
Midgardsorm allready sealed it once, to test, if whe are worthy. But removing the stones would at last reduce the power a little.

By other hand:
If the WoL even truly that strong? When he needed allways help from others, to do the big fights.^^

Originally Posted by Keichi

The Azem crystall give the WoL the ability to summon allways other beeings to him (i think it was never stated, who or what they are, at last, do i not remember that). So, from story telling is he allways outnumbering the enemie. Whe dont even know, what strenght they have. In theorie could he summon them for every encounter. Even, again one of the bugs at the start.

Removing the stone would make that stuff impossible. But, at the same time would it be again a pain in the ... for the writer, to explain, where allies are coming. Or, if he is solo again (like fight again Ifrit: cut scene for and after the fight shows, that WoL is solo, in the fight are other people there, Or Titan: you was senden first and it was stated, that the others are trying to follow as fast as possible, but arive only after the fight, and yet, are other people there in the fight).

And again, I don't think you'd ever actually be happy with the crystal being destroyed. Because there will always be eight-player trials; we will always outnumber them, as we always have outnumbered them. The Azem crystal merely provides a clear, quick and constant explanation for why we always have seven people to call on, especially as the story takes us to increasingly more remote areas where it's unlikely that we just have seven nearby friends. (A reason across all languages, at that; before the crystal, the localizations were actually inconsistent about if they wrote in us getting backup or not.)

Similarly, you won't be satisfied by sealing away the Blessing of Light, because that didn't meaningfully weaken us last time, it just made the Ascians get cocky enough to take a few casualties. And there aren't even Ascians anymore! Or primals, in fact!

You don't want the crystal to be gone, because all that would do is change the next extremely improbable trial we get into into a question of 'where'd all these guys come from' that the game might not even care to answer. What you want is an explanation for why we only sometimes have seven randos with us; why we aren't constantly throwing a full party at every single problem.

And you're right, the WoL isn't actually that strong. Don't get me wrong, they're a serious enough threat that you could never count out of a 1v1 against someone of around the same size, but for several expansion now they've been fairly consistently written as at the top of their field while not being the only one on a peak; we've frequently been in situations where an individual puts up a serious fight and sometimes even wins, and that's not even taking into account people like Estinien and Zero, who've never fought us but are definitely implied to be in the same range. We're good, but we're not 'soloed Zodiark' good.