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  1. #11
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    XI had expansions, but it still ditched its original cast for a while after the initial storyline ended and you went off on adventures in foreign lands with new faces, then it brought them back into the picture when things escalated again.

    People don't necessarily want them gone entirely but a break would be nice.
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  2. #12
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    Your argument is a Fallacy of Exception; FFXI is a unique experiment. I only played FFXI for a few years, but I don't remember there being a main cast of characters. I only remember a few named quest givers. In fact I just had to look it up to find out that the "Main Story" can be found in optional missions. The Story is not optional in FFXIV, it IS the game. There's a reason FFXIV failed when it tried to be FFXI 2.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by diamondedge83 View Post
    Simple, we're not playing sequels or prequels; we are still playing FFXIV. Heavensward, Stormblood, Shadowbringers, Endwalker, Dawntrail and beyond are not sequels, prequels, or side stories, they are EXPANSIONS. Also, we ARE going off on a brand new story. Endwalker was a book-end for the Hydaelyn/Zodiark Arc, which means Dawntrail is the New Bookend for the start of the Next Arc. You're getting everything you're asking for except for throwing away the party.
    i am not suggesting they throw away the scions completely or anything that extreme but it would just be nice for them to be repurposed outside of the mainstory like how other characters have been with appearing for seasonal events for example heck even urianger was in a seasonal event so this just proves that they can be useful outside of constantly saving the world and such an that we can still see them without it having consequences or greater impact on the story as a whole.
    people are just tired of the same faces an same bits i think we need a break away from it is all i am saying for just one expansion story an they have been doing this little by little if you've noticed we got a break from thancred, lyse. papalymo.allisae, and minfilia for most of heavensward an the story wasn't any less great for their absences or minimal role within the tale being told to us an even in stormblood we got a break from y'shtola and thancred and urianger he's just been mostly a background character for those two expansion as well but he was still present at moments and no one bats an eye for him being missing in the action alot of the time.

    i thinks it time the twins get a break away from us too and y'shtola again, lets go on an adventure with g'raha like we promised an have estinien tag along an now we're also pals with Erenvald we could bring him too with us in 8.0 and onwards.
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  4. #14
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    You want a main story without the main characters. It's not going to happen. That's what side content is for. Or the occasional zone like Elpis. If people are tired of the same faces, they can play other games, nobody is stopping them. When I buy a Mario game, I don't get upset when I see Mario, Peach, Toad, Luigi, and Bowser and complain that they're in the game again.
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    I mean in XI you would get parts where Aldo, Zied, Gilgamesh or Perishe would pop up in other expansion stories. If not Shantotto cause that woman had to dip her head in just to see if what was going on was interesting enough for her.

    Anyway I feel as though the devs are going to be slowly working the main team Scions out of the spotlight. Based off hints they gave us throughout the 6.x quests. Well for the one's we've had since the start of ARR. I can see still keeping Krile, G'raha and Estinien. The devs have said they haven't decided yet or not if 7.0 will be the start of another huge story arc or not. That it will depend on part on how us players react to 7.0. I as like the others am not sure why you're trying to look so far down the road when we don't even know what the newest adventure that we are just days away in experiencing has in store for us. The only thing we know they could at a later date come back to is to check back in with the 13th to see how Zero and "Golbez" have been carrying on without our involvement.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    I mean in XI you would get parts where Aldo, Zied, Gilgamesh or Perishe would pop up in other expansion stories. If not Shantotto cause that woman had to dip her head in just to see if what was going on was interesting enough for her.
    Pop up? So did they feel like they were the main party, or were they more like say Garlond Iron Works who show up every once in a while, do something, and then go away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diamondedge83 View Post
    Pop up? So did they feel like they were the main party, or were they more like say Garlond Iron Works who show up every once in a while, do something, and then go away?
    More often than not it was the Garlond Ironworks variety. Each time they appear it does make sense as to why they're dipping into the story. Though Aldo does get the WoL treatment in the opening cinematic.
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    That's what I figured. Apples and Oranges. The Scions aren't going anywhere, and they shouldn't, this is their story. Sure some might leave and new members might join, but in the grand scheme of things The Scions are FFXIV.
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    FFXI's story is constructed like other MMOs in a way that FFXIV really isn't; you see the approach of drifting between recurring characters for their respective adventures fairly often in MMOs. And realistically FFXIV isn't that far off, it's just that it has more of a focus on its central story than most MMOs, and we get a 'core party' to bounce off of as well.

    You can even see that 1.0 was generally built in the usual MMO way, too; the two groups that would become the Scions in the live game were sort of in that Ironworks mold of drifting in and out. And honestly, I suspect that a lot of people's complaints about the O.G. Scions kinda stem from that; Y'shtola, as an example, wasn't really designed to be a deep character with an extended story arc and development, she was designed to turn up occasionally to give you an important-sounding reason to go do MMO busywork. As a result she kinda turns up 'fully-developed'; she doesn't need to grow as a person, she needs you to go kill five gigantoads. Just fine for the original purpose, leads to some problems in the current role.
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    Last edited by Cleretic; 06-12-2024 at 11:25 AM.

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    For 8.0 am i hoping for stuff, that i allready hoped for 7.0.

    - give us new companion.
    At the end of EW had everyone of the scions his own wishes, goals, job to do (Ysthola, write the damit book).
    It feels time, to be separated from them and find a new group to help. The scions could than showing up as guest in later Events for nice fan service. Like it is with the pokemon special manga. Where every region has his own cast and earlier charas are showing up from time to time.

    Maybe, the WoL could become the mentor of a new person.

    - story for 7.0 do i hope for a small scale problem and back to the roots (be a normal adventures). This "games of thrones" setting fit this idea allready. I expect it to be some kind of treasure hunt (was it allready stated, what kind of trials this will be?). With the warmonger as the final boss (or person to lead to the boss).
    I hope for a story Twist, that the lion girl is betraying us and would be the person whe had to stop. But i dont think, that this will happen.
    7.x will probably involving kingdom manangement, similary to SB.
    But after that? Hard to say.
    Whe have a whole new continent, where whe could have new areas. Or, whe could go to the dragon continent. Where maybe dragon hunters are doing problems (sequel to HW, some evil Dragoons take revenge).

    - maybe nerv the WoL storywise, by destroying Azems crystall. Its a nice item to explain, where the raid people are coming. But it looks like to give the WoL to much power.
    Maybe, lets his light crystall be destroyed again (now, that Hydaelin is vanished).
    By removing some of his power again, is it easier, to create enemies, who are a challenge and at the same time not to powerfull.
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