#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Reinha]

Their point was that casters and melee have no business having mitigation that is required for completion (or mitigation at all, they can just have their defensives)

There are too many fail points for mitigation as it is, the melee and the caster mitigation should be pulled off them and given to the healers and tanks should lose reprisal in exchange for their shields/POA style mitigation leaving the only two real “mitigation” fail points as the healers and the physical ranged

Right now when you fail a mitigation check it could literally be any of the 8 members that failed

Yes like why was I alternating Feints with the other melee for several AoEs so that the party could survive while the healer is spamming Glare? Make it make sense. People say "do harder content" but the harder content is where I've questioned all this role blending the most.

Found the player that never pressed Virus/Feint/Addle in their life.

So you cut out the part of my post where I discuss using Feint and then post a quip saying I don't use it? It doesn't make you look clever, honey.

[HighlanderClone]

What. Every job needs a healer in most content other than like, WAR? PLD at a cost to dps? RDM Vercure's aren't keeping a tank topped. In fact, Viper comes with ZERO defensives other than a 120sec and 90sec abilities that hardly sustain over a fight. I will agree that SOME of the healing, shielding, and mit should be taken from the other roles and placed back on the healers, but speaking in hyperboles and over-exaggerations kills any sensible conversation.

nola pls u surely know u can faceroll all dungeons with 1t3d even on gnb

[rawker]

This is awkward...

On the topic of 1t3d, i'm not that good yet to carry with any other tank than PLD....

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

What. Every job needs a healer in most content other than like, WAR? PLD at a cost to dps?...

This guy just forgot:

Sheltron Mastery
Lv. 82
Upgrades Sheltron to Holy Sheltron.

Knight's Benediction Effect: Gradually restores HP
Cure Potency: 250
Duration: 12s

Divine Magic Mastery II
Lv. 84
Adds a healing effect to Holy Spirit, Holy Circle, and Confiteor.
Cure Potency: 400

Combo Action: Confiteor
Additional Effect: Restores own HP
Cure Potency: 400

Combo Action: Blade of Faith
Additional Effect: Restores own HP
Cure Potency: 400

Combo Action: Blade of Truth
Additional Effect: Restores own HP
Cure Potency: 400

Enhanced Divine Veil
Lv. 88
Adds a healing effect to Divine Veil.
Cure Potency: 400

[Hellebore_Ghrian]

nola pls u surely know u can faceroll all dungeons with 1t3d even on gnb

Done it with GNB, no clemency PLD and WAR. I don't play drk but with a smn and a dnc it should be possible too I think.

[Grann-Goro]

Personaly, I think that one of the main issue is that, in FF14, DPS can do nothing to protect their healer(s).

In my eyes, good crafted games based on the holy trinity usually go like this : the healer is the fragile heart of the team, the one who needs to be protected at all costs. Without him/her, the team dies.
So if the healer is in danger, the priority is to defend him/her.
If an ennemy attacks the healer, focus and kill this ennemy, quick !
If the healer is going to take big damage, see if YOU can maybe take damage instead !
etc...

But in FF14 boss design, DPS just can't do that.
The only one who can (but I may be wrong because I don't know all the jobs) is an off-tank paladin with cover.
DPS constantly have to pray that healers survive and can do nothing to help them. So of course it became very frustrating for them very quick when the healer dies. It's understandable.
So what did devs do ? Did they improved the "team-play"?
No, they removed the necessity of the healer...

[Myrany]

Personaly, I think that one of the main issue is that, in FF14, DPS can do nothing to protect their healer(s).

In my eyes, good crafted games based on the holy trinity usually go like this : the healer is the fragile heart of the team, the one who needs to be protected at all costs. Without him/her, the team dies.
So if the healer is in danger, the priority is to defend him/her.
If an ennemy attacks the healer, focus and kill this ennemy, quick !
If the healer is going to take big damage, see if YOU can maybe take damage instead !
etc...

But in FF14 boss design, DPS just can't do that.
The only one who can (but I may be wrong because I don't know all the jobs) is an off-tank paladin with cover.
DPS constantly have to pray that healers survive and can do nothing to help them. So of course it became very frustrating for them very quick when the healer dies. It's understandable.
So what did devs do ? Did they improved the "team-play"?
No, they removed the necessity of the healer...

ok so when I peel adds off a healer and run them to the tank I am NOT protecting the healer? hmmmm ya learn something every day

[Grann-Goro]

I was talking about boss
Adds don't exist anymore there !

[Kes13a]

ok so when I peel adds off a healer and run them to the tank I am NOT protecting the healer? hmmmm ya learn something every day

problem is, thats not as common as it used to be. I do that as well, because its hard to keep the tank or anyone else healed if the healer is having to heal themselves up. but I have noticed that quite a few dps do not do that any more.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

I don't want to be a precious angel the whole party has to go out of their way to keep alive, I just want my presence to matter